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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsRams View Post
    I mean if people need to point out the obvious to you I will.

    1 They won’t get the average, they will get less. The only reason for the MWC conference to invite a school so outside their footprint would be to lowball them on the revenue they get to be part of the conference. And then they are just assuming NDSU makes a bowl each year and that teams will be clamoring to give NDSU money to come play them. It’s already difficult enough for NDSU to get guarantee games, yet adding 22 more scholarships will entice teams to give NDSU double that amount now cause they are FBS? LOL at that assumption. They would be more in the SJSU range. A bottom third team in financials does seem like a big positive to me. Them listing the attendance as a bonus and comparing to the other teams over a huge sample size of one year is adorable. Let’s see that over a 10 year period which is what any logical person would do if they truly wanted to study the feasibility of something like this.

    2 no conference commissioner cares. I could just imagine the laughs a room would get if Matt Larson called the MWC commish and said ‘but we have great Google traffic”

    3 literally the least important thing when getting an FBS invite. Do people think Rutgers was added to B1G cause they were competitive?

    3 listing a negative as a positive is some nice slight of hand here. The Dome is tapped, there is no new seats coming up. To expect 19k to see San Jose or Fresno St in November or December in hopes of getting an invite to the Belk Bowl is comical. Sure the initial rush would spike seeing new teams. But the author just admitted NDSU fans get bored easily. So one would expect those numbers to fall after 3-4 years.

    5 again another slight of hand listing the biggest negative as a positive. If MWC is going to expand into a third time zone it gonna be for a Texas school not a Dakota school.

    It’s like me creating a website on why Rosario Dawson should sleep with me. I could come up with a bunch of ridiculous reasons but none of it matters if she doesn’t agree to it. The MWC has no interest in NDSU. They would need 10 teams to leave and 15 others schools to turn them down before they even entertained inviting NDSU.

    Until the G5 moves down or until the P5 gives the G5 a seat at the championship table, NDSU isn’t going anywhere.
    Well enjoy being the tallest midget then. Some of us are over it. Will you keep telling yourself this while the crowd in dome gets smaller and smaller? While the money dries up? The competition sucks at this d2 level. We ain't going to take it. No. We're not going to take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaBison View Post
    Don't disagree that a larger venue to play football would be nice for a move to FBS, but is it really necessary to make the move up?

    - NDSU's average attendance at games exceeds the requirement mandated by the NCAA for FBS membership (something many G5 can't meet) http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/AMA/Division...2%208%2010.pdf

    - NDSU's ticket revenue is higher than every FCS program, and is higher than the majority of G5 programs (isn't a bigger venue about increasing ticket revenue?) https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

    The only reason I could think for a larger venue is that you could offer more tickets to visiting teams, but we are talking G5 -- are they going to bring 5K fans? I know it would be an issue if you were hosting Oklahoma or something... but I say move up... then that portion can be figured out. Having a full dome filled with screaming fans is awesome, and looks great on TV -- NDSU already has that!
    It's just so nice to have multiple excuses. Blame the dome and the city of Fargo too. D2 thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsRams View Post
    It’s like me creating a website on why Rosario Dawson should sleep with me. I could come up with a bunch of ridiculous reasons but none of it matters if she doesn’t agree to it. The MWC has no interest in NDSU. They would need 10 teams to leave and 15 others schools to turn them down before they even entertained inviting NDSU.
    Right eh?!?! Like when hoser made a tweeter acct like he was an expert at chopping wood. I said hoser your dad was Paul Bunyan not you lol... that Canuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buthockey View Post
    Right eh?!?! Like when hoser made a tweeter acct like he was an expert at chopping wood. I said hoser your dad was Paul Bunyan not you lol... that Canuck.
    It has "Chuck the Pigskin" written all over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Well enjoy being the tallest midget then. Some of us are over it. Will you keep telling yourself this while the crowd in dome gets smaller and smaller? While the money dries up? The competition sucks at this d2 level. We ain't going to take it. No. We're not going to take it.
    News flash, neither you or I have any control over it. Personally I would love to see NDSU in MWC. But I can’t force the MWC to accept NDSU.
    I mean if people are going to be absurd why not to all the way? Why not make a push for the B1G? Who cares if it will never happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsRams View Post
    I mean if people need to point out the obvious to you I will.

    1 They won’t get the average, they will get less. The only reason for the MWC conference to invite a school so outside their footprint would be to lowball them on the revenue they get to be part of the conference. And then they are just assuming NDSU makes a bowl each year and that teams will be clamoring to give NDSU money to come play them. It’s already difficult enough for NDSU to get guarantee games, yet adding 22 more scholarships will entice teams to give NDSU double that amount now cause they are FBS? LOL at that assumption. They would be more in the SJSU range. A bottom third team in financials does seem like a big positive to me. Them listing the attendance as a bonus and comparing to the other teams over a huge sample size of one year is adorable. Let’s see that over a 10 year period which is what any logical person would do if they truly wanted to study the feasibility of something like this.

    2 no conference commissioner cares. I could just imagine the laughs a room would get if Matt Larson called the MWC commish and said ‘but we have great Google traffic”

    3 literally the least important thing when getting an FBS invite. Do people think Rutgers was added to B1G cause they were competitive?

    3 listing a negative as a positive is some nice slight of hand here. The Dome is tapped, there is no new seats coming up. To expect 19k to see San Jose or Fresno St in November or December in hopes of getting an invite to the Belk Bowl is comical. Sure the initial rush would spike seeing new teams. But the author just admitted NDSU fans get bored easily. So one would expect those numbers to fall after 3-4 years.

    5 again another slight of hand listing the biggest negative as a positive. If MWC is going to expand into a third time zone it gonna be for a Texas school not a Dakota school.

    It’s like me creating a website on why Rosario Dawson should sleep with me. I could come up with a bunch of ridiculous reasons but none of it matters if she doesn’t agree to it. The MWC has no interest in NDSU. They would need 10 teams to leave and 15 others schools to turn them down before they even entertained inviting NDSU.

    Until the G5 moves down or until the P5 gives the G5 a seat at the championship table, NDSU isn’t going anywhere.
    Noted : Dont send Samsrams to negotiate.

    hopefully we wont cave on revenue sharing
    Yes the mountain west has shown no overtones to NDSU or even winked at us across a crowded bar ... but NDSU has to be big daddy and walk up to the hot chick at 1am and think to himself.. wtf. im going in...

    NDSU does need a new ON CAMPUS Semi Enclosed stadium. 40,000. find 4 big donors $50 mil each over 50 years

    we can fill 40,000 and we have just missed out on 7-8 years of BISON FEVER and Enthusiasm that wouldve pushed us over the brink.

    if we dont act NOW. the plateau and fatigue will get worse and we will lose more fans!!

    Trophy Chasing is like staying in the lower class in HS sports and dominating
    NDSU TO FBS. HAVEN'T WE WON ENOUGH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Chapo View Post
    Noted : Dont send Samsrams to negotiate.

    hopefully we wont cave on revenue sharing
    Yes the mountain west has shown no overtones to NDSU or even winked at us across a crowded bar ... but NDSU has to be big daddy and walk up to the hot chick at 1am and think to himself.. wtf. im going in...

    NDSU does need a new ON CAMPUS Semi Enclosed stadium. 40,000. find 4 big donors $50 mil each over 50 years

    we can fill 40,000 and we have just missed out on 7-8 years of BISON FEVER and Enthusiasm that wouldve pushed us over the brink.

    if we dont act NOW. the plateau and fatigue will get worse and we will lose more fans!!

    Trophy Chasing is like staying in the lower class in HS sports and dominating

    Fill 40k, we cant even fill 20k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUSR View Post
    Fill 40k, we cant even fill 20k.
    and finding 4 donors to kick in $1 million a year for 50 years?

    Jesus these 30k millionaires think money is just waiting to be spent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison 4 Life View Post
    and finding 4 donors to kick in $1 million a year for 50 years?

    Jesus these 30k millionaires think money is just waiting to be spent.
    It's an ag school. Subsidize it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Chapo View Post
    Noted : Dont send Samsrams to negotiate.

    hopefully we wont cave on revenue sharing
    Yes the mountain west has shown no overtones to NDSU or even winked at us across a crowded bar ... but NDSU has to be big daddy and walk up to the hot chick at 1am and think to himself.. wtf. im going in...
    Haha well if they did send me I sure as hell wouldn’t use the worthless points from that link.

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