NDSU to the FBS

[56BISON73]

I dont think it would kill anything, but it would lead to some godawful attendance on occasion. Might have 25K for a nice fall day, and have 10K tops the next week if shitty weather rolls in.

But...there is no outdoor stadium coming anytime soon so no worries. Fargodome for the foreseeable future.

It will also kill donations. When people start monetizing what its costing them to only go to 4 games a year instead of 6 they are just going to say the hell with it.
Not to mention freezing your ass off? A lot of People wont do it anymore. I know my wife and I wont.

[bisonaudit]

Something about Rob Port and a DUI?

[OrygunBison]

The fact that you committed a felony is not a personal shot. It’s just a fact.

Why be such a prick? If you think you're better than someone, it doesn't help your cause to wallow in the gutter with them. Just a little hard to claim any moral high ground with shit on your shoes.

[reformedUNDfan]

I am also in the "Don't need a new dome to move-up now" Camp... Assuming you meet or exceed the average attendance requirement for FBS membership, what function does a football venue provide? Ticket revenue to fund the athletics program... using the USA Today database, here is how NDSU compares to the G5 and FCS Power 3 (MVFC, Big Sky, and CAA) for Ticket Revenue (for all sports, hence UNDs numbers for hockey):

1 Memphis $10,755,833.00
2 Nevada $9,683,290.00
3 Cincinnati $7,736,020.00
4 Boise State $7,016,928.00
5 San Diego State $6,596,027.00
6 Fresno $6,429,309.00
7 NDSU $6,379,573.00
8 ECU $6,190,857.00
9 UCF $5,984,236.00
10 Colorado State $5,784,735.00
11 Hawaii $5,602,360.00
12 Montana $5,588,367.00
13 New Mexico $5,042,302.00
14 UND $4,994,577.00
15 Houston $4,882,307.00
16 UNLV $4,726,304.00
17 USF $4,600,251.00
18 SDSU $4,131,288.00
19 Wyoming $3,971,848.00
20 ODU $3,789,906.00

If NDSU is already a solid Top 10 "non P5" program for Ticket Revenue, what does a huge capital investment provide, besides an insurmountable fundraising project, or unnecessary debt (assuming you could get a bond)? Recruits already say NDSU's crowd and their energy are a reason for their interest in the program -- most of those G5 programs cannot match the filled stadium NDSU has. The only other reason for a huge stadium is for perceived "status" of a bigger stadium (aka "dick measuring").

Could NDSU use additional seating, and some premium seating? Yes... but not at the expense of drowning in debt, or providing less funding to other athletic teams.

Removing the random northside pressbox adds something like 500 seats. Do the club level endzone seating that was proposed a few years ago on both ends and we're up to 1000, do end to end suites at rooftop level on the west side, replace the existing suites with full row seating and bathrooms underneath. Boom, another 1000 seats. All the sudden the Dome is a 21000 seat arena, with an entire sideline of suites that can still be added, as well as a second level of standing room seating. 22100 feels like so much more than 18800

[oldmantutters]

Why be such a prick? If you think you're better than someone, it doesn't help your cause to wallow in the gutter with them. Just a little hard to claim any moral high ground with shit on your shoes.

It's definitely a bad look. Chapo says enough outlandish things. Bag on those all you want, leave the personal shit outta here.

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[WeAreThePride]

Why be such a prick? If you think you're better than someone, it doesn't help your cause to wallow in the gutter with them. Just a little hard to claim any moral high ground with shit on your shoes.

Hell, have you really lived if you haven't committed a few felonies?

[OrygunBison]

Hell, have you really lived if you haven't committed a few felonies?

I have only been caught twice...

[Sader87]

NDSU remaining at the FCS-level is so laughable.....dear Christ, what else do you have to prove???

[GreenfieldBison]

It's definitely a bad look. Chapo says enough outlandish things. Bag on those all you want, leave the personal shit outta here.

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Furthermore if in fact this has been expunged then technically in the eyes of the law and all the rest of us this isn't really true. For all practical purposes it never happened.

Even if it was not expunged it is IMHO way out of bounds. Personal foul. Extra fifteen yards for egregious violation.

[GreenfieldBison]

NDSU remaining at the FCS-level is so laughable.....dear Christ, what else do you have to prove???

Guessing you wanted to put this in the Beating Dead Horses thread but could not find a way to edit it down to 10 words?