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    I don’t care if QP runs the ball as long as it’s for positive yards. If it was only a yard or two average then I’d have a problem. Kind of like A-Gap Power over and over again. Why stop if it works. Also, why in all that is holy did we quit running the ball in the first quarter?!! 6 yards a pop and we start to throw the ball.
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    Default Re: 2021 Verbal: Cole Payton

    Quote Originally Posted by 23Bison View Post
    I don’t care if QP runs the ball as long as it’s for positive yards. If it was only a yard or two average then I’d have a problem. Kind of like A-Gap Power over and over again. Why stop if it works. Also, why in all that is holy did we quit running the ball in the first quarter?!! 6 yards a pop and we start to throw the ball.
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    Default Re: 2021 Verbal: Cole Payton

    Quote Originally Posted by 23Bison View Post
    I don’t care if QP runs the ball as long as it’s for positive yards. If it was only a yard or two average then I’d have a problem. Kind of like A-Gap Power over and over again. Why stop if it works. Also, why in all that is holy did we quit running the ball in the first quarter?!! 6 yards a pop and we start to throw the ball.
    He averaged 6 yards per carry. Bison fans find strange things to complain about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    I know that the first person I look to when a linemen screws up is the 2nd QB.
    Every QB has a cadence and rhythm. O-Linemen get used to a particular cadence and may anticipate the count which causes them to accidentally jump off sides. A half second delay in the cadence can majorly screw things up and result in penalties.

    CAS is 100% correct in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjamz View Post
    Every QB has a cadence and rhythm. O-Linemen get used to a particular cadence and may anticipate the count which causes them to accidentally jump off sides. A half second delay in the cadence can majorly screw things up and result in penalties.

    CAS is 100% correct in this case.
    That my post needed this much in-depth extra info is telling. I’ll add that each QB also has a different voice and emphasis on count calling, which taxes Oline more and results in hesitation off the ball.

    It’s similar to the RB rotation we have moved away from for the most part. Also similar is bringing in QP too much. These things throw off the O getting into a rhythm/being in sync like it should/can be. And Miller is a feel QB—get out of his way a bit and let him get his feel for game/D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    That my post needed this much in-depth extra info is telling. I’ll add that each QB also has a different voice and emphasis on count calling, which taxes Oline more and results in hesitation off the ball.

    It’s similar to the RB rotation we have moved away from for the most part. Also similar is bringing in QP too much. These things throw off the O getting into a rhythm/being in sync like it should/can be. And Miller is a feel QB—get out of his way a bit and let him get his feel for game/D.
    Meh, I think the the o linemen’s eyes and ears work and they can count. They know who’s in the game and they’ve worked plenty with both of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    That my post needed this much in-depth extra info is telling. I’ll add that each QB also has a different voice and emphasis on count calling, which taxes Oline more and results in hesitation off the ball.

    It’s similar to the RB rotation we have moved away from for the most part. Also similar is bringing in QP too much. These things throw off the O getting into a rhythm/being in sync like it should/can be. And Miller is a feel QB—get out of his way a bit and let him get his feel for game/D.
    Thanks for clarifying, that was what I was trying to get at as well, you said it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    Meh, I think the the o linemen’s eyes and ears work and they can count. They know who’s in the game and they’ve worked plenty with both of them.
    Meh, I think you’ve never played competitive college football, and, resultantly, don’t/can’t understand nuances of doing so and what it requires to be successful. The simple/basic things matter. Some of my best friends to this date are former Olinemen, who I’ve talked with/communicated about this and former RB rotation fiasco. But what do they know, only one of them is in the College Football HOF, and only a few others were All-Americans and in the NDSU HOL.

    As a number guy, I’d think you’d get this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    Meh, I think you’ve never played competitive college football, and, resultantly, don’t/can’t understand nuances of doing so and what it requires to be successful. The simple/basic things matter. Some of my best friends to this date are former Olinemen, who I’ve talked with/communicated about this and former RB rotation fiasco. But what do they know, only one of them is in the College Football HOF, and only a few others were All-Americans and in the NDSU HOL.

    As a number guy, I’d think you’d get this...
    I think it’s pretty silly to blame one guy for the whole thing. I think that the people making these decisions have backgrounds comparable to the people you reference and they they’ve concluded differently as it regards the risks and rewards for the team.
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    Default Re: 2021 Verbal: Cole Payton

    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    I think it’s pretty silly to blame one guy for the whole thing. I think that the people making these decisions have backgrounds comparable to the people you reference and they they’ve concluded differently as it regards the risks and rewards for the team.
    Wow. Do you ever yield to people who have more experience on a particular subject than you?
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