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    Default St. Thomas to FCS

    http://www.startribune.com/universit...gue/562174952/


    St Thomas to FCS- they're considering Pioneer league and MISSOURI VALLEY
    Two things can be true at once.
    1. You can want to stay FCS
    2. The FCS is, as a general rule, really really really bad at football.

    Believing #1 doesn't magically make #2 not true anymore.

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    Default Re: St. Thomas to FCS

    Quote Originally Posted by MankatoBison View Post
    http://www.startribune.com/universit...gue/562174952/


    St Thomas to FCS- they're considering Pioneer league and MISSOURI VALLEY
    https://www.inforum.com/sports/47054...-Summit-League

    Similar to this but it does not mention the Missouri Valley for football. Guess it could come in to play.

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    Default Re: St. Thomas to FCS

    I don’t see MVFC happening anytime soon. Pioneer, yes absolutely.
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    Default Re: St. Thomas to FCS

    Quote Originally Posted by MankatoBison View Post
    http://www.startribune.com/universit...gue/562174952/


    St Thomas to FCS- they're considering Pioneer league and MISSOURI VALLEY
    an NDSU game here in the Cities every other year would be awesome
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    I think this is a good thing.

    If they have a plan to fund football I see no problem with them in the valley.
    ...of course, I could be wrong. (I'm not, but whatever.)

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    Default Re: St. Thomas to FCS

    Another FCS school to recruit the MSP area isnt necessarily good IMO

    UNI, NDSU, SDSU, USD, UND, UST is a lot of schools looking for that level in low density states

    I will say UST probably has a better shot at the MVFC than Augy
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    With their alumni and the wealth of their alumni, I can see them being in the MVFC by 2030.

    They have a lot resources and will be a threat like NDSU and SDSU were quickly in the MVFC/Summit League. They should make their respective conferences stronger.

    Additionally, other schools will be able to recruit Twin City kids easier now that they will have competitions there.


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    Default Re: St. Thomas to FCS

    Quote Originally Posted by Bison bison View Post
    I think this is a good thing.

    If they have a plan to fund football I see no problem with them in the valley.
    Quote Originally Posted by tjbison View Post
    Another FCS school to recruit the MSP area isnt necessarily good IMO

    UNI, NDSU, SDSU, USD, UND, UST is a lot of schools looking for that level in low density states

    I will say UST probably has a better shot at the MVFC than Augy
    I had two thoughts

    1. Would love them in the Valley (even thought I think thats a BIG stretch for them). They would certainly be a better addition than indiana state, Western, Missouri State and now even SIU. They already have a nicer stadium than bout 1/2 of the MVFC. and just think, it would be yet another FCS team that would eventually beat the Gophers. Would be nice to have a game in Minneapolis/st paul every other year as well.

    2. I'm also afraid that if they really did join FCS, especially with schollies, that they could take a nice swipe (2-5) quality players from the cities that otherwise would have gone to us. Many players already pick St Thomas over good DII schools like UMDuluth and MSU mankato.

    IF THEY JUMP TO MISSOURI VALLEY....... I bet theyre a seeded team in the playoffs within a decade.
    Two things can be true at once.
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    2. The FCS is, as a general rule, really really really bad at football.

    Believing #1 doesn't magically make #2 not true anymore.

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    Default Re: St. Thomas to FCS

    Another team for OOC games.

    Perhaps the best item to come from this is that there will be another team in the local area that NDSU can schedule for OOC games. With the addition of Dixie State (Utah), Tarleton State (Texas), and most likely Augustana (South Dakota), we would have 4 new FCS teams west of the Mississippi for scheduling more games with. Add in Merrimack (Massachusetts), Long Island (New York), and North Alabama, that makes 7 new FCS teams in a short time.

    This will hopefully help us with not paying so much for our guarantee games - I just saw some of the other guarantees that teams are paying, and it is half of what NDSU has to pay:

    Eastern Kentucky is paying Charleston Southern only $115k in 2022 and they are paying Western Carolina $120k in 2023.

    Youngstown State is paying Incarnate Word $135k in 2021 and they are paying Duquesne $100k in 2020, $110k in 2022, and $115k in each 2024 and 2026.

    (I realize that NDSU is much better than Eastern Kentucky and Youngstown, which increases the cost for teams to come to Fargo, and that Duquesne can drive to Youngstown to save on travel).

    Having more FCS teams in the area should help NDSU with game options and thus lower costs.
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