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    Quote Originally Posted by EC8CH View Post
    I'm curious. If you eliminate the adjustment:
    National championships below the FBS level count at 50%

    How many places forward does that move the Bison?
    I would guess it puts all the 10 + championship teams at the top
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    Default Re: NDSU 10th best football program of all time

    Should have been ranked higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uffda View Post
    Yeah...and maybe they could swallow as well, huh? Would that make you happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison 4 Life View Post
    I would guess it puts all the 10 + championship teams at the top
    National Championships are still only 20% of the overall score though, so maybe not necessarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EC8CH View Post
    I'm curious. If you eliminate the adjustment:
    National championships below the FBS level count at 50%

    How many places forward does that move the Bison?
    That's what I was trying to find. But since I can't replicate their results, I can't find a solid answer to that question. Best guess is that NDSU would move ahead of Texas and Nebraska to take 8th place behind Yale. Old number was 0.2*15*0.5=1.5. Take away the penalty and it's 0.2*15=3. So add 1.5 to NDSU's score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammersmith View Post
    That's what I was trying to find. But since I can't replicate their results, I can't find a solid answer to that question. Best guess is that NDSU would move ahead of Texas and Nebraska to take 8th place behind Yale. Old number was 0.2*15*0.5=1.5. Take away the penalty and it's 0.2*15=3. So add 1.5 to NDSU's score.
    Impressive how dominant the top tier FBS programs are considering that. Would have thought putting NDSUs natties on a even scoring curve would skew the rankings more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EC8CH View Post
    Impressive how dominant the top tier FBS programs are considering that. Would have thought putting NDSUs natties on a even scoring curve would skew the rankings more.
    There is also a Winning Percentage penalty for non D1 in the "Since Integration" category. That is 30% of the weighting. For NDSU all seasons prior to move to FCS are reduced by 10%.

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    NDSU is ranked 10th historically according to the poll. No reason to debate if we should have been higher or lower. WE ARE 10th!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Meaty View Post
    NDSU is ranked 10th historically according to the poll. No reason to debate if we should have been higher or lower. WE ARE 10th!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Yes but us math types like to play with the variables to watch how the curves move.

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    Default Re: NDSU 10th best football program of all time

    On a somewhat related note, none of NDSU's FBS victories made this list:

    https://www.si.com/college-football/...B0Elt2jofujEIo

    Probably because when NDSU beats an FBS team... it's not really that much of an upset

    *it is funny Butler vs YSU made the list though

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