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    Default Re: The Cutting Edge - Who Would You Pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by I miss Chubs View Post
    Senior years

    With 1:45 left on own 20 I like Wentz.

    If it was 0:18 left Walker

    If it was 8:13 Brock

    If it was Easton we’d be up by 4, but woulda been nice to see them play at top 30.


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    Easton did it in Iowa.

    They all had their opportunities. Brock seemed like he did it more often so he’s the one that stands out for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EC8CH View Post
    UNI comeback drive in the dome. That comeback drive was all Wentz. Deep out laser to Vraa on 4th Down. RJ in the turkey hole for a big chunk. Broken up pass across the middle to fullback Thor that was a dime. Perfect read and touch pass to the corner of the endzone to Shep. Think there was another pass to Vraa across the middle that I missed, but by now you get the picture.

    That drive is the trump card. That's the drive that got Wentz picked #2 overall.

    You could also argue that Stick failed to pull off a comeback drive against JMU in the semifinal.

    Down 4 on their own 20, with 1:45 remaining. Watch Wentz go to work:

    Holy smokes......Bailey's hail mary at the end of that game traveled about 67 yards through the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wagsabison View Post
    Easton did it in Iowa.

    They all had their opportunities. Brock seemed like he did it more often so he’s the one that stands out for me.


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    Outside of the second semi-final against Georgia Southern and the Kansas State drive what other come from behind late game wins did Brock have? Seriously I don't remember that many.

    Wentz had the 2014 SDSU and ISUr games and the 2015 UNI game.

    Easton had the Iowa game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BisonAccountant44 View Post
    Grab your pitchforks because here comes an unpopular opinion.

    Brock is/was a classic case of the QB getting too much credit for the teams success. He peaked somewhere in his Sophomore year and made me nervous everytime he dropped back to pass after that. He was a good game manager and decent QB, but not great. 2012 Indiana St 2 pick 6's we lose 14-17. Mo State 3 picks and at halftime every single person on this board was calling for him to get benched and replaced with Carson. Going into '13 there wasn't a single person anywhere that believed he was the most talented QB on the team, and the percentage of people here who wanted him to be the starter at K-State was far less than 100.

    He was involved in a lot of late game heroics, and again he was a good QB and game manager, but had he been a truly great QB some of the heroics likely wouldn't have been needed.

    Carson was/is easily twice the QB Brock was, and Easton is somewhere in the middle.

    The answer to this hypothetical is simple once you know what you really want. If you want the most talented all around QB who gives you the best chance to win Carson is the only option. If you want the nestolgic game manager who was involved with a lot of end game dramatics you take Brock, and if you want one in the middle who's got recency bias on his side take Easton.



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    If Carson is starting at QB in 2013 and was surrounded by that team, NDSU beats K State by 2 TD’s and there is no need for an 8 minute drive at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TransAmBison View Post
    I have to say...senior Easton Stick makes it real tough. Man...I just don't know. I guess I'm throwing out that scenario because Brock wouldn't have been in it. They would have taken care of business earlier and iced the game. They would have gotten the first downs to finish it off. Carson's team couldn't get those last 1st downs and gave other teams another opportunity. Brock would have won that season opener vs Montana. My top is Brock, then Easton, and then Carson. Brock was the best leader...got the absolute most out of his team as a whole. Carson's team leaned on him...not sure if that is his fault or the coaches.
    Doubt it....unless Brock was able to play secondary in that game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EC8CH View Post
    Seriously, what fanbase in the history of sports has enjoyed anything similar on the scale we have been afforded over the past decade? It's crazy.
    Celtics fans from 1957-1969
    Yankees fans from the late 20's to the early 60's
    UCLA basketball fans from 1964-1975
    Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Rocky Marciano fans
    Tiger Woods fans from 1997-2008
    Arguably Patriot fans since 2002
    Montreal Canadians fans from 1951-1960
    Cal rugby since 1980
    New Zealand All Blacks fans since 1905
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    Quote Originally Posted by runtheoption View Post
    Celtics fans from 1957-1969
    Yankees fans from the late 20's to the early 60's
    UCLA basketball fans from 1964-1975
    Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Rocky Marciano fans
    Tiger Woods fans from 1997-2008
    Arguably Patriot fans since 2002
    Montreal Canadians fans from 1951-1960
    Cal rugby since 1980
    New Zealand All Blacks fans since 1905
    Did any of those fanbases get to pretend to be the underdogs while repeatedly beating higher division teams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EC8CH View Post
    Did any of those fanbases get to pretend to be the underdogs while repeatedly beating higher division teams?
    No​...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by runtheoption View Post
    Celtics fans from 1957-1969
    Yankees fans from the late 20's to the early 60's
    UCLA basketball fans from 1964-1975
    Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Rocky Marciano fans
    Tiger Woods fans from 1997-2008
    Arguably Patriot fans since 2002
    Montreal Canadians fans from 1951-1960
    Cal rugby since 1980
    New Zealand All Blacks fans since 1905
    You forgot The Harlem Globetrotters. For like, forever.
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    Default Re: The Cutting Edge - Who Would You Pick?

    Didnt Wentz do it against Coastal Carolina as well?

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