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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bird View Post
    Really tough matchup for Cam to stay alive. He has returning All American Tariq Wilson, who had national champ Seth Gross on the ropes last year. He is exceptional on his feet and did alright on bottom vs Ethan Lizak, who is even better than Cam on top. He'll have to keep it close on his feet and get a turn or two on top.

    Fleetwood should beat Heinselman. He is very active, but not strong, and can struggle on bottom. After Heinselman, he'd likely have Elijah Oliver who has had a great past two weeks.

    Fogarty should beat Skigdel too. After that he'd likely have Te'Shan Campbell who is beatable, but I would favor him over Fogarty.
    How does Fleetwood vs Purdue's Schroeder shake out? Fogerty gets Te'Shan as you predicted. If they win these matches they wrestle for All American correct?

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    Team Points Detail For: North Dakota State
    Weight Class Name (Grade - Place) Advancement Points Activity Points Placement Points Total Points
    125 Brent Fleetwood (?? - ??) 1.5 1.0 0.0 2.5
    133 Cam Sykora (?? - ??) 0.5 1.0 0.0 1.5
    165 Andrew Fogarty (?? - ??) 1.5 1.5 0.0 3.0
    174 Lorenzo De La Riva (?? - ??) 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    Bout 310 - Official claims coach heckling from corner -1.0
    Total Team Points 6.0


    The coaches' emotions got the best of them in De La Riva's last match against Wyoming. Losing a team point is huge in this event. Right now, with that point, NDSU would be tied for 28th. Instead, they're tied for 34th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBison View Post
    How does Fleetwood vs Purdue's Schroeder shake out? Fogerty gets Te'Shan as you predicted. If they win these matches they wrestle for All American correct?
    To be an All-American, both Fleetwood and Fogarty have to win their next two matches. Losers of the Consolation Quarterfinals, wrestle for 7th and 8th place.
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    So not only do our wrestlers decline every year this at this time under Roger he is stupid too. Perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake View Post
    So not only do our wrestlers decline every year this at this time under Roger he is stupid too. Perfect.
    So to be perfectly clear here the so called “badgering of an official” has a little more to the story. DeLaRiva gets hit with a hands to the face call by the outside official. Kish asked was asking him in what sequence did this occur since when the call was made both wrestlers were on their feet. The outside office said he was trying to get the main officials attention for about 10 seconds prior to the point being awarded. Kish wanted clarification on when it occurred so he could throw the brick for review and all the outside officials kept saying was he saw hands to the face and wouldn’t tell Kish the sequence when he saw it. So Kish asked him again and that’s when he was hit with the unsportsmanlike. So if a coach fighting for his wrestler is what you consider to be stupid then I think your a complete idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator Dad View Post
    So to be perfectly clear here the so called “badgering of an official” has a little more to the story. DeLaRiva gets hit with a hands to the face call by the outside official. Kish asked was asking him in what sequence did this occur since when the call was made both wrestlers were on their feet. The outside office said he was trying to get the main officials attention for about 10 seconds prior to the point being awarded. Kish wanted clarification on when it occurred so he could throw the brick for review and all the outside officials kept saying was he saw hands to the face and wouldn’t tell Kish the sequence when he saw it. So Kish asked him again and that’s when he was hit with the unsportsmanlike. So if a coach fighting for his wrestler is what you consider to be stupid then I think your a complete idiot.
    This is a sign of frustration on the coach's part. He knows or should know that yelling at the ref is not going to get him what he wants. The ref is not going to be intimidated by the coach. The coach should have approached the table if he wanted clarification on a call. once he gets clarification if he does not agree he can throw the brick and have them take a look. That is how you fight for your wrestler, yelling at the ref is not the answer. Maybe he needs to see a good therapist or attend some anger management classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loose Lips View Post
    This is a sign of frustration on the coach's part. He knows or should know that yelling at the ref is not going to get him what he wants. The ref is not going to be intimidated by the coach. The coach should have approached the table if he wanted clarification on a call. once he gets clarification if he does not agree he can throw the brick and have them take a look. That is how you fight for your wrestler, yelling at the ref is not the answer. Maybe he needs to see a good therapist or attend some anger management classes.
    That’s just it he wasn’t yelling at him he was asking for when the violation occurred to throw the brick and they wouldn’t give it to him. If he approached the table he would’ve still been hit for questioning a judgment call due to the fact it was now outside the 7 seconds a coach has to throw the brick Kind of a no win situation in this case. Supposedly the hands to the face had occurred earlier in the match but the outside official couldn’t get the main officials attention to award the point.

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    My concern with Coach Kish is he has not recruited as a head coach and developed 1 all American. Coach Maughn had Sprenkle, Monk, Zillmer and the 74 pounder from Minnesota who placed 7th or 8th his senior year during Bucky's last years as the Head Coach. I don't know if we can get a better head coach but I think Coach Kish has demonstrated he is an average non-inspiring Head Coach.

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    Why can't we hire an OKState assistant or another top Big12 assitant??

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    Quote Originally Posted by harleycowboy View Post
    My concern with Coach Kish is he has not recruited as a head coach and developed 1 all American. Coach Maughn had Sprenkle, Monk, Zillmer and the 74 pounder from Minnesota who placed 7th or 8th his senior year during Bucky's last years as the Head Coach. I don't know if we can get a better head coach but I think Coach Kish has demonstrated he is an average non-inspiring Head Coach.
    Julson is the other All-American.


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