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    Recruits need to be team first regardless of the number of perceived "stars"

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    So no new news as far as recruiting goes?
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    Obviously getting kids with a certain amount of stars can mean they will be better players than others without stars. Does this always hold true, no based on the fact some kids are under recruited. Kids also develop differently and sometimes the players without as many stars or offers have a chip on their shoulder and come in and bust their ass and end up becoming a better player than someone who might have been better in high school. The coaches obviously know what type of player they want and it isn’t all about athletic ability. If you don’t know how to run routes or play our coverages you could be the best athlete and never see the field. We don’t just sign the guy cause he has a 3 star rating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison20 View Post
    Obviously getting kids with a certain amount of stars can mean they will be better players than others without stars. Does this always hold true, no based on the fact some kids are under recruited. Kids also develop differently and sometimes the players without as many stars or offers have a chip on their shoulder and come in and bust their ass and end up becoming a better player than someone who might have been better in high school. The coaches obviously know what type of player they want and it isn’t all about athletic ability. If you don’t know how to run routes or play our coverages you could be the best athlete and never see the field. We don’t just sign the guy cause he has a 3 star rating
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    Quote Originally Posted by wan2bqb View Post
    Bingo trust the system until proven otherwise!
    Yes. But just think how many championships we would have if our coaches knew how to recruit


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    Yeah... we've only built the most successful dynasty in NCAA history by doing what we do. We've never ever gone big on stars. We are a developmental program.

    Keep in mind this is the ratings available on 24 7, so most of the guys like MJ Stumpf, Landon Lechler, Jack Plankers, Travis Beck Dudzik, Heagle, Ryan Smith, or Elsey Thornton were rated at all. Even guys like Zack Vraa, Leevon Perry, and Cole Jirek weren't big names by today's standards. Walk ons like Matt Biegler and Bryan Schaetz aren't even listed on most places

    2010
    Billy Turner - zero stars (NFL)
    John Crocket - zero stars (NFL)
    Kyle Emanual - zero stars (NFL)
    Marcus Williams - zero stars (NFL)
    https://247sports.com/college/north-...tball/Commits/

    2011
    Carson Wentz - zero stars (NFL)
    Joe Haeg - zero stars (NFL)
    CJ Smith - 2 stars (NFL)
    https://247sports.com/college/north-...tball/Commits/

    2012
    Zack Johnson - zero stars (the LG) 4 year starter
    https://247sports.com/college/north-...tball/Commits/

    2013
    Nick DeLuca - zero stars (NFL)
    Tre Dempsey - 2 stars (4 year starter)
    https://247sports.com/college/north-...tball/Commits/

    2014
    Greg Menard - 3 stars (4 year starter)
    Easton Stick - 2 stars (NFL)
    R.J. Urzendowski - 2 stars
    Erik Bachmeier - 2 stars
    Colin Conor - zero stars (starter)
    Blake Williams - zero stars (starter)
    Nate Jenson - zero stars (starter)
    Lance Dunn - zero stars (starter)
    Stanley Jones - zero stars (rotation)
    Luke Bacon - zero stars (stater)
    Tanner Volson - zero stars (starter)
    Dan Marlette - zero stars (starter)
    Jalen Allison zero stars (starter)
    Darius Shepherd - zero stars (NFL)

    Dakota Reed - zero stars
    E.J. Ejiya - zero stars
    Khavon hawkins - zero stars
    Christian Triplett - 1 star
    Issac Cenescar - 1 star
    Brandon Hines - 2 star
    Marcus Collins - 2 star
    https://247sports.com/college/north-...tball/Commits/


    2015

    Ty Brooks - 0 stars (james johanessen was a 3 star)
    Cole Karcz, 0 stars (starter)
    Dom Davis, 0 stars (injured)
    Brock Robbins, 0 stars (starter)
    Bruce Anderson, 0 stars (NFL)
    Jake Brinkman, 0 stars
    Jack Albrecht 0 stars


    James Hendricks - 1 star (starter)
    Matt Anderson - 1 star
    Zach Johnson - 1 star (probably NFL)


    Dimitri Williams - 2 star (rotation)
    Derek Tuszka 2 star (starter, poss nfl)
    Braden Sikes - 2 star
    Connor Hubbs - 2 star
    Bryan Carlton - 2 star
    Jack Darnell - 2 star (starter)
    Robbie Grimsley - 2 star (4 year starter)
    marquise Bridges - 2 star (starter)
    Aaron Mercadel - 2 star (starter)
    Demaris Purifoy - 2 star (injured)
    Jaxon Brown - 2 star (rotation)
    Trenton Mooney - 2 star

    Ben Ellefson - 3 star (starter)

    https://247sports.com/college/north-...tball/Commits/

    2016
    Cameron Hackl - 3 star

    Every other player was a 2 star
    Sean Engel,
    Moses Nyangacha,
    Cordell Volson (starter)
    Brandon Lund,
    Jabril Cox (starter, probably NFL)
    Felix Dixon,
    Ross Kennelly (rotation)
    Adam Cofield, (rotation)
    Beau Pauley (rotation)
    Karson Schoening (starter)
    Ben Hect,
    Dillon Radunz (starter, probably NFL)
    Henry Van Dellen,
    https://247sports.com/college/north-...tball/Commits/

    2017
    Noah Gindorf - 3 star (starer)

    2 star players
    Holden Hotchkiss,
    Nash Jensen (starter)
    Tanner Sundt,
    Lane Tucker (rotation)
    Josh Hayes (starter)
    Logan McCormick (rotation)
    Austin Avery
    Jack Begley
    Michael Tutsie (starter)
    Josh Babicz (rotation)
    Seth WIlson (rotation)
    Christian Watson (starter)
    Spencer Waege (rotation)
    Dawson Weber (rotation)
    Noah Sanders
    Zack Willis
    https://247sports.com/college/north-...tball/Commits/

    2018
    Saybein Clark - 3 star (rotation)
    Trey Lance - 3 star (stud)

    Tony Pierce - 2 star (rotation)
    Phoenix Sproles - 2 star (starter)
    Mitchell kartes - 2 star
    Samuel Moore - 2 star
    James Kaczor- 2 star (starter/rotation)
    Bartholomew Ogbu, - 2 star (rotation)
    Joe Schreiber, - 2 star
    Zach Mathis - 2 star (rotation)
    DJ Stewart - 2 star
    Brenden Cook - 2 star (rotation)
    jalen Sundell - 2 star (future starter)
    Bryan Nohava - 2 star
    Hunter Luepke - 2 star (starter)
    Joseph Evans - 2 star
    Jackson Enz - 2 star

    Destin Talbert 1 star (rotation/starter)

    Jayden Price - zero star
    Jasier Cox - zero star (rotation)
    Juanye Tillman zero
    Kenneth Channelle zero

    https://247sports.com/college/north-...tball/Commits/

    2019
    Luke Weerts - 3 star (played 12 games as a freshman)
    Hunter Poncius - 3 star
    Reed Ryan - 3 star
    Javier Derritt - 3 star
    Will Mostaert - 3 star (played 4 games as a freshman)

    Terrell hall
    Travis Yohnke - 2 star
    Luke Dwyer - 2 star
    jake Rock - 2 star
    Anthony Coleman - 2 star
    Logan Graetz - 2 star

    Kobe Johnson - zero star (rotation, played 12 games))
    DJ Baptist - zero star
    Dom Jones - zero star
    Cameron Smith - zero star
    Dylan Hendricks - zero star
    Kaden Kuntz - zero star
    Jaden Klabo - zero star
    Jalen Bussey - zero star
    Jacob Lippe - zero star
    Juliean Wodarczyk - zero star (played more than 14 games as a freshman)
    Brandon Westberg - zero star
    Nick Kubitz - zero star
    Dawson Weisenberger - zero star

    https://247sports.com/college/north-...tball/Commits/
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    Question: When a kid has an NDSU offer (solid one), does his star ranking increase? Say he’s a no-star recruit and we offer, does he become a 1-star or better if he has another legit FCS power team offer?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    Question: When a kid has an NDSU offer (solid one), does his star ranking increase? Say he’s a no-star recruit and we offer, does he become a 1-star or better if he has another legit FCS power team offer?


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    Quite possible.
    Two recruits I was keeping an eye on for being possible Bison, Yahya Black and Mason Richman, both went up 2 stars, iirc, when they committed to Iowa. Recruiting services go back and review film on the player when they get such offers/commit hence the team knew "more" than the star services......
    And on the FCS level, a NDSU offer could help improve a players rating e.g. from one star to 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    Question: When a kid has an NDSU offer (solid one), does his star ranking increase? Say he’s a no-star recruit and we offer, does he become a 1-star or better if he has another legit FCS power team offer?


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    I wouldn't doubt it. Like Herdbot's above post shows NDSU started getting a lot more 2 star commits around the 2015/2016 timeframe which I believe is with 247sports started BisonReport. Before then none of the national services covered Bison recruiting (although BisoNation.info did a great job before that). At the upper levels I know that star ratings depend almost entirely on who offers shows interest. Bama will never sign a less than 3* recruit because they're an automatic 3* (if not higher) the instant Bama offers them no matter what their rating was before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    Question: When a kid has an NDSU offer (solid one), does his star ranking increase? Say he’s a no-star recruit and we offer, does he become a 1-star or better if he has another legit FCS power team offer?


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    I don’t know the answer to the above question. I did just notice Cam Miller is now a 3 star recruit on 247 (previously a 2 I think). According to 247 he is our top recruit of all time in their rating system.
    1) Cam Miller
    2) Luke Weerts
    3) Joe Stoffel

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    Just found it interesting

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