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    I like to play the exercise- if we designed a system from the ground up what would it look like? How would it compare to our current system.

    I would only have one residential campus, maybe two, certainly not 11.

    All of these schools think their Harvard or mit if they just got more funding from the state.

    If you're going to be studying fulltime all week you can drive four hours to campus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison bison View Post
    I like to play the exercise- if we designed a system from the ground up what would it look like? How would it compare to our current system.

    I would only have one residential campus, maybe two, certainly not 11.

    All of these schools think their Harvard or mit if they just got more funding from the state.

    If you're going to be studying fulltime all week you can drive four hours to campus.
    Yeah, I don't think any of them think that but you're not wrong on the residential campus front, I don't think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DakotaOkie View Post
    I seem to recall this sort of proposal being tossed around in the early 80's or thereabouts. The only catch was all of the schools that survived would be called the "University of North Dakota - city name here". Everyone on this board knows how far that proposal flew (or would fly) in Fargo.
    Whether or not there are too many schools is certainly a debatable topic, but there is a need for community and technical colleges in every state including ND. Call them universities or what not, places like Wahpeton, Lake Region, Dickenson, Minot, etc all serve a student clientele not necessarily well served by the universities of eastern North Dakota.
    They already have names – NDSU campus of NDUS, UND campus of NDUS, … and put all the techs and 2-years under a single but different umbrella. Instead they lumped them with the 4-years and made 1 for each flagship. Why you ask? Because UND keeps thinking they can use legislation to somehow 'catch' NDSU (whatever that means, since NDSU doesn’t have a med school, law school or hockey) and NDSU has to keep fighting to maintain what it’s achieved.

    It’s absolutely insane, people. So just end this nonsense and make them all part of the same thing, since they already really are anyways. You can still have physical centers as pieces of a bigger institution, and then you actually would be a little bit closer to the better schools in the country.

    And after what happened this week I have serious doubts that ND can support 2 D1 WBB programs (and here comes Augie) …

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    Tear them all down and build a new super campus in McClusky. As far as I can tell that is the town closest to the geographical center of ND. Problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldmantutters View Post
    Tear them all down and build a new super campus in McClusky. As far as I can tell that is the town closest to the geographical center of ND. Problem solved.
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    The Roman Catholic church expected North Dakota to be as populated as a state like Pennsylvania and originally created a Diocese of Jamestown. Bishop Shanley moved the cathedral to Fargo when it was evident that Fargo would be focal point of eastern North Dakota and leave Jamestown in the dust.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bison bison View Post
    I like to play the exercise- if we designed a system from the ground up what would it look like? How would it compare to our current system.

    I would only have one residential campus, maybe two, certainly not 11.

    All of these schools think their Harvard or mit if they just got more funding from the state.

    If you're going to be studying fulltime all week you can drive four hours to campus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison bison View Post
    I like to play the exercise- if we designed a system from the ground up what would it look like? How would it compare to our current system.

    I would only have one residential campus, maybe two, certainly not 11.

    All of these schools think their Harvard or mit if they just got more funding from the state.

    If you're going to be studying fulltime all week you can drive four hours to campus.

    Build a system around learning experiences in local communities and workplaces. Higher education institutions should be more like the idealized extension programs sending experts into communities and workplaces to bring knowledge and development opportunities. Most graduates say that they didn't really learn their field until they entered their professions.

    No need to isolate students on a campus except to extend adolescence. We have this site for that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyPanth View Post
    Build a system around learning experiences in local communities and workplaces. Higher education institutions should be more like the idealized extension programs sending experts into communities and workplaces to bring knowledge and development opportunities. Most graduates say that they didn't really learn their field until they entered their professions.

    No need to isolate students on a campus except to extend adolescence. We have this site for that!
    If I understand your post you are arguing for a technical school approach. While that may work in a number of fields IMO it is not applicable to all areas. The puirpose of a liberal arts education is to develop critical thinking skills and not to teach each and every nuance of a particular field. A good example of this is Pre-law or Pre-med programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    The Roman Catholic church expected North Dakota to be as populated as a state like Pennsylvania and originally created a Diocese of Jamestown. Bishop Shanley moved the cathedral to Fargo when it was evident that Fargo would be focal point of eastern North Dakota and leave Jamestown in the dust.
    And they had to split off half the state because the Irish and Germans couldn't get along.

    Man, I hate the Irish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison bison View Post
    And they had to split off half the state because the Irish and Germans couldn't get along.

    Man, I hate the Irish.
    The French are the worst.
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