Brock Robbins

[Vet70]

Seems like Brock got the shaft in this deal. I'd tend to believe him and his mom's story... not really sure why they'd have any reason to lie. Larsen has plenty of reason to fudge the truth here.

It's also possible that it was a student and technically a staff member that gave it to him if it was a GA or a former player that still hangs out with the team.

Clarify something for me---are GA's considered "student-athletes"?

[scottietohottie]

Seems like Brock got the shaft in this deal. I'd tend to believe him and his mom's story... not really sure why they'd have any reason to lie. Larsen has plenty of reason to fudge the truth here.

It's also possible that it was a student and technically a staff member that gave it to him if it was a GA or a former player that still hangs out with the team.

Oh please. You don't think mama bear flipped out when she heard her Cub was losing his full ride and Senior year? Maybe he got them from a friend and in the heat of the moment told a little fib to Mama Bear. It happens. My speculation should be as good as anyone's. It's all a bunch of crap.

[HerdBot]

I bet the truth lies somewhere in between.

Odds if everyone getting it? Zero. More than 1 person would have tested positive. 18 players per game x 3 playoff games is 54 players on a smaller playoff roster. Plus regular season testing through the same company

Odds of a position coach handing it out to every player, not knowing its banned? Very unlikely but possible. Once again the number of tests to athletes just dont add up.

Odds of Brock just being bitter and throwing people under the bus. Possible but unlikely.

Odds of a staff member loosely suggesting it to a player, who got his own and gave it to Brock? Or hearing about a supplement and getting wrong stuff? Most probable.

What I found interesting is Brock said he knew exactly where you can and cant get its which makes me think he actually seeked it out, or bought it or knew the person who did.

I dont think Brock is in the wrong and he got a bad deal by the NCAA who is clueless

[Professor Chaos]

Clarify something for me---are GA's considered "student-athletes"?

I wouldn't think so.

Oh please. You don't think mama bear flipped out when she heard her Cub was losing his full ride and Senior year? Maybe he got them from a friend and in the heat of the moment told a little fib to Mama Bear. It happens. My speculation should be as good as anyone's. It's all a bunch of crap.

Fair enough. Your guess is as good as mine. I just don't see why he'd lie about it to his mom. Whether he got it from a coach or another student the outcome doesn't change for him. If he is telling a fib to mommy about it I have no sympathy for him since he's unnecessarily dragging a lot of respectable coaches through the mud by doing something like that.

[BisonLaw]

I don't get what the Robbins's goal is here. If they are looking for accountability, name the person who gave it to him. They say they're looking to clear his name, but this makes him look a lot worse.

Also, ef the NCAA. A year for a pre-workout powder. What an organization.

[Professor Chaos]

I don't get what the Robbins's goal is here. If they are looking for accountability, name the person who gave it to him. They say they're looking to clear his name, but this makes him look a lot worse.

Also, ef the NCAA. A year for a pre-workout powder. What an organization.

Agreed. They're acting like he's a martyr for not outing the "trusted staff member" but in reality they're putting a suspicious cloud over every member of that staff.

[IzzyFlexion]

Well, at least the inforum website is all over the story.

Last weekend, Bison Track & Field athlete Payton Otterdahl threw the shot put farther than anyone else on the planet (thus far in 2019) and that story was buried in the SUB-TAB "Sports"" and then one had to click the SUB-SUB-TAB "More Sections" and then a SUB-SUB-SUB-TAB "Track & Field" in order to see coverage of that.

[HerdBot]

I don't get what the Robbins's goal is here. If they are looking for accountability, name the person who gave it to him. They say they're looking to clear his name, but this makes him look a lot worse.

Also, ef the NCAA. A year for a pre-workout powder. What an organization.

I think he wants to clear his name since people thought he was a steroid user, an illegal drug user, and a cheater.

Obviously he's not and we know that now. (Actually people who followed closely knew he wasnt because a banned stimulant isnt steroids or weed. But everyone doesnt follow closely )

But not calling out a specific current or former staff member is lame. It's like taking responsibility but not. Its like a news story naming "an unnamed source. "

[bisonaudit]

I don’t get the animosity toward the NCAA on this. Athletes and by extension, programs are responsible for knowing what they put in their body.

The notion that calling something a ‘pre-workout powder’ makes whatever is in it automatically benign is ridiculous. It’s either complete ignorance or complete obsfuscation. Neither obsolve responsibility.

At this point, seems like there’s a disagreement about the source of the substance. Could truely be from outside the program, could be plausible deniability.

[thebigund]

The story from the family says "a trusted staff member". AD Larson said "NDSU" does not provide supplements. Both versions could be true.

The motivation coach?