Brock Robbins

[56BISON73]

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[Christopher Moen]

Actually, it's the universities who wilfully joined the NCAA's sandbox. The NCAA just enforces the rules the schools decided on.

At least that's my impression

Universities, conferences, etc. - I know. However, a guideline was set for a reason - safety. While that guideline might be considered too low for some, just remember that the FDA caffeine limit on a 12 ounce can of soda (pop) is around 70 mg. There must be a reason for the limits.

[Christopher Moen]

Hence.....the reason that I made it crystal clear that I was hypothesizing.

I understand, but I doubt any of us can give an exact reason being that none of us are Brock. All I know is that he took a product that if used correctly shouldn't have been an issue if caffeine is the stimulant he test positive for. If he tested positive for another stimulant, and it wasn't listed on the product's ingredient label, I hope his family has a great lawyer because that industry has little oversight from any governing authority.

[Twincitybizon]

You do realize it's their sandbox, and therefore the athletes have to play by their rules. Based on the medical information I provided above, you will understand why the NCAA is tough about high intakes of caffeine. As much as it sucks to see an athlete suspended, watching them die is beyond any measure, worse.

I said relevance, not legality. It's like measuring the ocean in buckets. Yeah you could, but it's a stupid measurement because it's not really relevant. Also nobody drinks one cup of coffee. That would be like having one beer. Pointless PS. I'm not arguing one way or another. I fully understand the danger and if you look poster earlier it's a borderline health crisis.

[Twincitybizon]

None of you with heart conditions should take that shit. Or if your on blood pressure meds or really over 50 to be honest.

[bisonaudit]

I said relevance, not legality. It's like measuring the ocean in buckets. Yeah you could, but it's a stupid measurement because it's not really relevant. Also nobody drinks one cup of coffee. That would be like having one beer. Pointless PS. I'm not arguing one way or another. I fully understand the danger and if you look poster earlier it's a borderline health crisis.

Get the ludes!

[Christopher Moen]

I said relevance, not legality. It's like measuring the ocean in buckets. Yeah you could, but it's a stupid measurement because it's not really relevant. Also nobody drinks one cup of coffee. That would be like having one beer. Pointless PS. I'm not arguing one way or another. I fully understand the danger and if you look poster earlier it's a borderline health crisis.

The NCAA laying down guidelines to prevent a student-athlete from a possible death is all the relevance needed. You can keep arguing in circles, but your original rebuttal that refers to 250 mg of caffeine in one serving not being a lot and out of date makes no sense when most caffeine drinker, like my self, have to drink multiple servings (five 12 oz servings of Diet Dew for me) just reach that amount. It's a big difference to throw that amount of caffeine in your system in one quick shot as oppose to taking four to five hours.

[Gully]

Calling 250mg of caffeine a lot in one sitting just shows you're out of touch on this. It is average for a product like this. Which probably 40-50 percent of males age 17-28 take. You probably masterbate to Jane Fonda before calling your buddy up on your rotary phone.

The comment about the rotary phone is clearly out of line and you should apologize. There is no room for your ageism on BV. I don't know how many of us will function today after reading your hateful message.

[Gully]

Actually, it's the universities who wilfully joined the NCAA's sandbox. The NCAA just enforces the rules the schools decided on.

At least that's my impression

You've been propagandized by Indy Bison. Of course this is literally true, but it's like saying the government is the people. It's true statement but ignores the problems faced with most bureaucracies as they take on a life of their own and become master instead of servant. It's like what someone said about meetings, "none of us are as dumb as all of us".

[Vet70]

The comment about the rotary phone is clearly out of line and you should apologize. There is no room for your ageism on BV. I don't know how many of us will function today after reading your hateful message.

Sorry, I can't read your post. Off to find my magnifying glass.