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    Quote Originally Posted by minnesotabobcat View Post
    Yes, you had wins against Poly (NDSU), MSU (SDSU), NAU (MS), Montana (WI), Northern Colorado (SD)...and the Weber beat SD, MSU beat Western Illinois and Montana beat Northern Iowa. The big sky played arguably the 4 best teams in the Valley, but he Valley missed the best team in the Big Sky (EWU), and the third best team (UC Davis) and arguably 4th or 5th best team (Idaho State). Outside of NDSU/SDSU....who in the Valley can consistently hang with EWU....or UC Davis for that that matter. Yes, the conferences are hard to compare because the Big Sky is so big....but like I said earlier, you take the top 2 teams out of both conferences and the Valley was mediocre at best this year....and UD Davis/MSU/Montana/Idaho State > UNI/Western Illinois/Indiana State/Illinois State.
    Thanks to this year's bracket, the Big Sky will finally get a team back to the championship game since 2010. So you got that going for you.

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    Thanks to this year's bracket, the Big Sky will finally get a team back to the championship game since 2010. So you got that going for you.
    SDSU should have thought of that before they went out and lost to Northern Iowa. And....if you swapped them out with Maine....there's still a decent chance the Big Sky gets to Frisco.

    Honestly, you guys are still the team to beat. But if you take an objective look at your conference this year....it's not as good as it has been. What's wrong with saying that? For most of the past 5 years, outside of EWU....the Big Sky hasn't sent many threats to the playoff's. However, Weber is now pretty good, UC Davis and MSU are on the rise, and you had Montana/Idaho State on the fringe of being decent. You guys have been on cruise control since the beginning of October....and was the Youngstown score a function of them playing a great game....or you guys coming out flat? During the last 8 years, give me a year that you think the conference was worse than this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnesotabobcat View Post
    SDSU should have thought of that before they went out and lost to Northern Iowa. And....if you swapped them out with Maine....there's still a decent chance the Big Sky gets to Frisco.

    Honestly, you guys are still the team to beat. But if you take an objective look at your conference this year....it's not as good as it has been. What's wrong with saying that? For most of the past 5 years, outside of EWU....the Big Sky hasn't sent many threats to the playoff's. However, Weber is now pretty good, UC Davis and MSU are on the rise, and you had Montana/Idaho State on the fringe of being decent. You guys have been on cruise control since the beginning of October....and was the Youngstown score a function of them playing a great game....or you guys coming out flat? During the last 8 years, give me a year that you think the conference was worse than this year.
    I'm not aware of anyone denying that the Valley may be a little down this year. And it's conceivable that the Big Sky is a little up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnesotabobcat View Post
    SDSU should have thought of that before they went out and lost to Northern Iowa. And....if you swapped them out with Maine....there's still a decent chance the Big Sky gets to Frisco.

    Honestly, you guys are still the team to beat. But if you take an objective look at your conference this year....it's not as good as it has been. What's wrong with saying that? For most of the past 5 years, outside of EWU....the Big Sky hasn't sent many threats to the playoff's. However, Weber is now pretty good, UC Davis and MSU are on the rise, and you had Montana/Idaho State on the fringe of being decent. You guys have been on cruise control since the beginning of October....and was the Youngstown score a function of them playing a great game....or you guys coming out flat? During the last 8 years, give me a year that you think the conference was worse than this year.
    That’s not the right question. 2018 teams aren’t competing with 2011 teams for playoff births.
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    ...It's the offseason.....so I have time for lot's of analysis Plus, for the record....I would have put Indiana State in over Incarnate Word.......
    It's the offseason for some teams.

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    I saw an interesting stat on the MSU web page. NDSU is now MSU's most common playoff opponent, with three games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnesotabobcat View Post
    Williams held out for that FBS scholarship til' the very end...but ended up re-committing to MSU at the last minute, and was the cherry on top of last year's recruiting class. He was injured for parts of the season, but when he was in he made an impact. He hurt himself at the goal line in the NDSU game, and it didn't look good, but they cut away for commercial and I haven't heard how serious the injury was.
    Has anyone heard anything? No weight on I believe the right leg as they took him off the field. Was later taken by stretcher from the sideline.

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    Would like MSU and UM fan to respond. I really thought MSU and UM would be more of force in FCS when NDSU joined especially after we met MSU in 2010 playoffs. Since NDSU joined FCS, those programs have been down and really the Big Sky overall at the championship level. Which to me is surprising given how the rules of football have really started to favor passing teams and wide open offenses more typical of the Big Sky. It doesn’t seem that NDSU and MSU/UM compete for too many recruits and Montana recruits stay in state. So what happened to MSU/UM? Would the championship teams or runner up teams from UM compete with the current Bison teams? Would those programs be better if NDSU had joined their conference - kind of like SDSU has had success just seem to meet NDSU too often and too early in the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of a Bison View Post
    Would like MSU and UM fan to respond. I really thought MSU and UM would be more of force in FCS when NDSU joined especially after we met MSU in 2010 playoffs. Since NDSU joined FCS, those programs have been down and really the Big Sky overall at the championship level. Which to me is surprising given how the rules of football have really started to favor passing teams and wide open offenses more typical of the Big Sky. It doesn’t seem that NDSU and MSU/UM compete for too many recruits and Montana recruits stay in state. So what happened to MSU/UM? Would the championship teams or runner up teams from UM compete with the current Bison teams? Would those programs be better if NDSU had joined their conference - kind of like SDSU has had success just seem to meet NDSU too often and too early in the playoffs.
    As far as Montana State goes.....after 2010, they just had some bad recruiting classes where guys didn't pan out....and Ash lost the team (he also started swinging and missing on problem guys from FBS programs). He built a great offense.....but at the end his defense couldn't stop Bozeman High School. I do think Choate has MSU pointed the right direction....and will be able to make more of a game of it next time. As far as Montana goes.....I think their fall coincides with EWU's rise. I think U of M used to have their pick of the FCS recruits in Washington...and now EWU gets a lot of those guys (who knew an ugly red field could be such a good recruiting tool). Also, MSU has been getting more of the in-state guys. In years past, MSU pretty much got only the in-state guys who wanted to go into engineering (or some legacy players). Anyway, now I'd say it's more of a 50/50 deal with instate recruits right now. Everyone is interested to see Choate and Hauk go head to head on in-state recruiting. But, all in all....I think UM has taken a hit from the east and west on some of their recruits. It pains me to admit that Hauck will probably get Montana moving in the right direction too....and I think both MSU/UM will be top teams in the FCS in the not too distant future. As far as MSU goes, they have another good start to their recruiting class....and they have gotten better ever year under Choate...so I would expect them to be better next year as well.

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    Best player in college football. Used him against SDSU.


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