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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Chaos View Post
    You know what's amazing that I just looked up earlier today? Going into that game SDSU had only turned it over 16 times on the year... in their first 13 games combined. Now that's what you call a meltdown.
    Thank goodness they have joose for that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Chaos View Post
    Same reason Tre Roberson was first team in front of Carson Wentz in the 2015 preseason. It's about the numbers and Christion has bigger ones behind his name.
    MV and FCS does not do itself any service by not recognizing its star players based on circumstances vs stats. They over sell crap and undersell quality. No wonder FCS is considered lower class in NFL scout reports.
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    STATS FCS All-American team is out.
    Easton Stick is 2nd Team QB, SDSU QB Taryn Christian did not make 1st team QB - that was senior Devlin Hodges from Samford

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nca...team-announced

    RB Bruuuuce Anderson & S Robbie Grimsley are on the 1st team.

    QB Stick, OL Tanner Volson and DE Greg Menard are on the 2nd Team.

    Junior OL Zack Johnson and sophomore LB Jabril Cox are on the 3rd team

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruinbison View Post
    STATS FCS All-American team is out.
    Easton Stick is 2nd Team QB, SDSU QB Taryn Christian did not make 1st team QB - that was senior Devlin Hodges from Samford

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nca...team-announced

    RB Bruuuuce Anderson & S Robbie Grimsley are on the 1st team.

    QB Stick, OL Tanner Volson and DE Greg Menard are on the 2nd Team.
    Zack Johnson and Jabril Cox also made 3rd team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBison View Post
    MV and FBS does not do itself any service by not recognizing its star players based on circumstances vs stats. They over sell crap and undersell quality. No wonder FBS is considered lower class in NFL scout reports.
    what is considered the higher class?

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    Quote Originally Posted by natstar1 View Post
    what is considered the higher class?
    He had to have meant FCS in both cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruinbison View Post
    STATS FCS All-American team is out.
    Easton Stick is 2nd Team QB, SDSU QB Taryn Christian did not make 1st team QB - that was senior Devlin Hodges from Samford

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nca...team-announced

    RB Bruuuuce Anderson & S Robbie Grimsley are on the 1st team.

    QB Stick, OL Tanner Volson and DE Greg Menard are on the 2nd Team.

    Junior OL Zack Johnson and sophomore LB Jabril Cox are on the 3rd team
    Always wonder how much consideration they take when Hodges plays vmi, wcu, citadel and Chattanooga vs playing a valley schedule.

    Probably none. If Hodges was a top fcs qb, samford would be a final 8 team but they aren't

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    Here's the preseason all-conference defensive teams:

    http://www.valley-football.org/news/...e-defense.aspx



    NDSU leads the way again with 4 first teamers (Mendard, Steidl, Cox, and Grimsley) and is tied with Indiana St (who had 5 guys on the 2nd team) of all teams with 5 players represented overall (Tuzska was second team DL). 3 of the 4 starting D-line made the list and it couldn't been all 4 as Caleb Butler arguably was snubbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Chaos View Post
    Here's the preseason all-conference defensive teams:

    http://www.valley-football.org/news/...e-defense.aspx



    NDSU leads the way again with 4 first teamers (Mendard, Steidl, Cox, and Grimsley) and is tied with Indiana St (who had 5 guys on the 2nd team) of all teams with 5 players represented overall (Tuzska was second team DL). 3 of the 4 starting D-line made the list and it couldn't been all 4 as Caleb Butler arguably was snubbed.
    I have to say I am surprised that there are five Sycamore players on the second team given how bad they were last year and despite that level of apparent respect the conference voters have them finishing last in the conference again. You would think that a defense made up of nearly half the players being of all conference ability would get your stock up to something above last place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BisonNeil View Post
    I have to say I am surprised that there are five Sycamore players on the second team given how bad they were last year and despite that level of apparent respect the conference voters have them finishing last in the conference again. You would think that a defense made up of nearly half the players being of all conference ability would get your stock up to something above last place.
    I would guess that the defense was young last year and they were on the field A LOT so they had ample opportunity to rack up gaudy tackle numbers. A guy on AGS said their two 2nd team LBs are the 2nd and 3rd returning leading tacklers in the conference. I would guess that an average NDSU defender sees about half the snaps of the average ISUb defender on the year since ISUb has less depth to work with and a lot more defensive snaps to play each game.

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