USA Today NCAA Finances Updated

[Professor Chaos]

At first glance when you compare UND to NDSU, you all did, don’t lie to yourself, we appear better off. Then when you consider hockey....... fuck.

Better off? UND has less revenue from tickets sales, contributions, and licensing. They have $2M more in revenue student fees and over $3M more in revenue from "school funds". NDSU has $1M more in revenue from "other" (whatever that is). If you look purely at total revenue and total expenses UND does look more balanced but if you look at where those numbers come from it's clear that those numbers are inflated by subsidies.

[bisonp]

Looking through the Mountain West teams, NDSU's ticket revenue is more than:

Wyoming
Nevada
Colorado State
UNLV
Fresno State
San Jose State
Air Force
Utah State

And within $200K of:

New Mexico
San Diego State
Hawaii

We did have 3 extra home playoff games last year but I believe most of that revenue went to the NCAA. So it seems that the Fargodome is not the stumbling block that many people claim, since that is presumably the bulk of our ticket revenue.

[bisonaudit]

Okay, Audit, please take us through who is doing good and not so good in our MVFC peers. (from the perspective of not making the state and students pay too much for their athletics)

were the only one under 30%. SDSU is the only one under 40%. I think UNI and und are the only ones under 50%.

[IBleedYellow]

At first glance when you compare UND to NDSU, you all did, don’t lie to yourself, we appear better off. Then when you consider hockey....... fuck.

You're at a 46% subsidy, NDSU is @ 28.7%.

Remember when NDSU went Division 1 and we were going there "on the backs of our students"?

Put your foot in your mouth and hop away. In no way shape or form do you guys appear "better off."

[Professor Chaos]

Looking through the Mountain West teams, NDSU's ticket revenue is more than:

Wyoming
Nevada
Colorado State
UNLV
Fresno State
San Jose State
Air Force
Utah State

And within $200K of:

New Mexico
San Diego State
Hawaii

We did have 3 extra home playoff games last year but I believe most of that revenue went to the NCAA. So it seems that the Fargodome is not the stumbling block that many people claim, since that is presumably the bulk of our ticket revenue.

The problem is all of those schools (with the exception of Nevada) have at least $10M more in revenue from subsidies than NDSU has. Do you think the students and/or the school/state would pick up the difference like the corresponding entities at those schools do?

[IBleedYellow]

JMU takes in $10M more in student fees that our total revenue. $37M from Students.

[bisonp]

The problem is all of those schools (with the exception of Nevada) have at least $10M more in revenue from subsidies than NDSU has. Do you think the students and/or the school/state would pick up the difference like the corresponding entities at those schools do?

No, I don't. Just pointing out that the Fargodome appears to be generating very competitive revenue despite its size, so talk about replacing it is probably pretty foolish.

[Vet70]

When you decide to come out as a NDSU Bison Football fan, please know that we will all be here to support you through that difficult time …

I am sad to say his transition already appears to be happening. He spends more time posting here lately than on SS. Actually, no one has posted anything on the Football forum for over 31 hours.

[ByeSonBusiness]

You're at a 46% subsidy, NDSU is @ 28.7%.

Remember when NDSU went Division 1 and we were going there "on the backs of our students"?

Put your foot in your mouth and hop away. In no way shape or form do you guys appear "better off."

He specifically said "at first glance." Reading comprehension?

[IBleedYellow]

He specifically said "at first glance." Reading comprehension?

Then he goes on a tangent about hockey. It's not just hockey that's burning them.