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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    What’s happening is the muscles are being strained and strengthened, but ligaments aren’t getting the same “load”. Basic lifting won’t put under stress ligaments and resultantly blood supply. That’s what needs to change a bit in IMO.


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    I don't think it's something we can change, just anatomy

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    The massive increase in ACL tears in all sports compared to the 80's and 90's is quite unbelievable. Back in the 80's it was called a trick knee and you were almost basically done. Glenn Mason discussed this on KFAN a while back and how few ACL tears he saw as a coach and now it is happening so frequently. Everybody thought if we got rid of the original astroturf these would decrease, but the trend is the complete opposite. This increase is coinciding with baseball's Tommy John, so obviously it has to do with the joints cannot sustain the current workouts.
    IMO it’s a mix of too much specialization, lack of lengthy off season recovery time, and general increase in weight and speed but not ligament strength. The off season used to really be an off season, now it’s dedicated to training harder and harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twincitybizon View Post
    I don't think it's something we can change, just anatomy
    They’re starting to use cadaver Achilles to replace torn ACLs. Pretty interesting since the Achilles is obviously way thicker and stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twincitybizon View Post
    I don't think it's something we can change, just anatomy
    Its just like putting 5k pounds on a 2500 pound rated axle. Somethings going to give.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigund View Post
    They’re starting to use cadaver Achilles to replace torn ACLs. Pretty interesting since the Achilles is obviously way thicker and stronger.
    They definitely are not doing this in athletes but okay

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    Quote Originally Posted by 130Bison View Post
    They definitely are not doing this in athletes but okay
    Look it up hot shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigund View Post
    They’re starting to use cadaver Achilles to replace torn ACLs. Pretty interesting since the Achilles is obviously way thicker and stronger.
    Doesn't matter if they use rhino tendon. It stretches well slowly, not quickly when tons of force is applied. Bigger faster people apply more force with dynamic movements ie cuts. I know if no way and no research that shows changing this. Connective tissue is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 130Bison View Post
    They definitely are not doing this in athletes but okay
    The patient is usually given the choice between an autograft using their own parts (patellar tendon or hamstring tendon) or using a cadaver graft. At least that was the option I was given when I had my ACL repaired. I elected to use my own parts.
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    Look it up hot shot.
    Maybe on non-athletes this is what they are using. Allografts (tissue from a cadaver) have way higher re-tear rates no matter what tendon it came from. Because of this, a high percentage of athletes and their surgeons choose to use an autograft (tissue from the athlete). Most choose a BPTB (bone-patellar tendon-bone) graft. They choose this because the bone plugs on each end of the graft anchor in much more securely and heal better. A common secondary option is a hamstring graft. But what do I know, I have only studied athletic training for 4 years, hot shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 130Bison View Post
    Maybe on non-athletes this is what they are using. Allografts (tissue from a cadaver) have way higher re-tear rates no matter what tendon it came from. Because of this, a high percentage of athletes and their surgeons choose to use an autograft (tissue from the athlete). Most choose a BPTB (bone-patellar tendon-bone) graft. They choose this because the bone plugs on each end of the graft anchor in much more securely and heal better. A common secondary option is a hamstring graft. But what do I know, I have only studied athletic training for 4 years, hot shot.
    What's your feeling on exercises like yoga in regards to helping prevent ligament injuries like an ACL tear?
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