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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    Huh? Any TM donation above the seat dues is still deductible, No?


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    I am under the impression donations attached to seats or used for a priority point that might be used to get tickets etc are not deductable. Anyone know for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAKBison View Post
    I am under the impression donations attached to seats or used for a priority point are not deductable. Anyone know for sure
    Makes no sense. Then any donation that has PPs attaches isn’t deductible, so Pat’s post about donating to other funds wouldn’t work either—basically nothing would.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    Makes no sense. Then any donation that has PPs attaches isn’t deductible, so Pat’s post about donating to other funds wouldn’t work either—basically nothing would.


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    Right....pats post makes no sense to me. but, I am not sure about the rule.....I could be lost entirely.

    How it was explained to me was that if one receives a benefit from a "charitable donation" it's is no longer considered charitable giving and thus not eligible for a tax break. A pp is a benafit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAKBison View Post
    I am under the impression donations attached to seats or used for a priority point that might be used to get tickets etc are not deductable. Anyone know for sure
    Your donations to TM that is tied to your seats are no longer deductible. You also only got 80% because that donation was REQUIRED to obtain tickets. The other funds are not REQUIRED and are 100% deductible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 56BISON73 View Post
    Your donations to TM that is tied to your seats are no longer deductible. You also only got 80% because that donation was REQUIRED to obtain tickets. The other funds are not REQUIRED and are 100% deductible.

    This is what I was told.
    Even if you get ppts? I hope so that would be awesome. Where is audit or Gabe when u need them

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAKBison View Post
    Your an enigma. You know people think that so did you just want to trigger or what. I dont get it. Ok I am over it....I lost interest. say
    I am curious tho. What about the question, if giving 25 points to alum for every degree earned at ndsu would drive higher revenue would you support it?

    Side note....I agree it's not as ridiculous now, but it has not always been so. 10 years ago two of us tried everything we could to get involved and were ignored at every turn. I am not saying its that way today but reputations are sometimes hard to shake
    What I would support is a 10 point one-time award per account in recognition of being a graduate of NDSU. Piggy backing multiple degrees I cant agree with. If you graduate you get 10 points IF you join TM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 56BISON73 View Post
    What I would support is a 10 point one-time award per account in recognition of being a graduate of NDSU. Piggy backing multiple degrees I cant agree with. If you graduate you get 10 points IF you join TM.
    I could live with that. Would varsity letters still be at 100? I would lower the vl amount,...not because I value the athlete any less but because incentives only work if they have real value. If you want to attract more, you have to make it so there is more equality. (Currently a none VL has to donate 6k just to get even to a VL. So assuming that VL also has an extra 6k to give, the none vl really has to donate 12k to be competitive.

    It's like a race, if your too far behind you just give up. But, if your right there with the other person you run harder....in this case give more

    I think 6k prices the average guy out of it i am certain 12k does .... There is no incentive to stay in the race if you cant win.

    Of course you could get rid of ppts all together, but it seems TM see them as value added and used them as an incentive. Imo they are just using them wrong.


    I would give a few pts for a degree, a few more for being a VL, a point for continuous support and points for a few other contributions, but more importantly points are earned by donating. Keep the pack closer and watch them compete...give.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAKBison View Post
    I could live with that. Would varsity letters still be at 100? I would lower the amount,...not because I value the athlete any less but because incentives only work if they have real value. If you want to attract more, you have to make it so there is more equality. (Currently a none VL has to donate 6k just to get even to a VL. So assuming that VL also has an extra 6k to give, the none vl really has to donate 12k to be competitive)


    I would give a few pts for a degree, a few more for being a VL, a point for continuous support and points for a few other contributions, but more importantly points are earned by donating
    Of course I would keep it at 100. I would also award points for every season you buy season tickets and it shouldnt have to be consecutive. Thats a real bullshit parameter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAKBison View Post
    Even if you get ppts? I hope so that would be awesome. Where is audit or Gabe when u need them
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    Quote Originally Posted by 56BISON73 View Post
    Of course I would keep it at 100. I would also award points for every season you buy season tickets and it shouldnt have to be consecutive. Thats a real bullshit parameter.
    Being a vl (you not me,) i get that. But, as i outlined i don't think that's the best way to use ppt as an incentive

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