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    Quote Originally Posted by wagsabison View Post
    I remember we have done it on some punts where the ball has bounced first. Don't recall on kickoffs though.
    You can’t fair catch a punt that has bounced.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    You can’t fair catch a punt that has bounced.


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    Maybe we dropped to a knee or something. I was thinking we've done it before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    You can’t fair catch a punt that has bounced.


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    Wasn't there a Ryan Smith return that was called back because he had originally called for a fair catch, the ball then bounced and he tried to return it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevdock View Post
    Wasn't there a Ryan Smith return that was called back because he had originally called for a fair catch, the ball then bounced and he tried to return it??
    Maybe, but that’s not a “fair catch” of a punt that bounced. What it is is a delay of game penalty I believe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    Maybe, but that’s not a “fair catch” of a punt that bounced. What it is is a delay of game penalty I believe.


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    Correct. I wanna say Dudzik did this more than once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevdock View Post
    Wasn't there a Ryan Smith return that was called back because he had originally called for a fair catch, the ball then bounced and he tried to return it??
    I believe you might be referring to a play where he "motioned" and yelled at his teammates to get out to the way as the punt was kicked short and he ran up and caught and took off. The officials took his arm motion as a fair catch signal even though I don't remember his arms going above his head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevdock View Post
    Wasn't there a Ryan Smith return that was called back because he had originally called for a fair catch, the ball then bounced and he tried to return it??
    Invalid Fair Catch Signal, I remember that one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Moen View Post
    I believe you might be referring to a play where he "motioned" and yelled at his teammates to get out to the way as the punt was kicked short and he ran up and caught and took off. The officials took his arm motion as a fair catch signal even though I don't remember his arms going above his head.
    I remember that one clearly. I thought Phil Hansen was going to explode on the radio over that call. He kept saying it's common to wave off your teammate and he never had his arm up all the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Moen View Post
    I believe you might be referring to a play where he "motioned" and yelled at his teammates to get out to the way as the punt was kicked short and he ran up and caught and took off. The officials took his arm motion as a fair catch signal even though I don't remember his arms going above his head.
    That was the first year of any hand signal was going to be a fair catch signal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    Invalid Fair Catch Signal, I remember that one!
    Correct. A fair catch can only happen if the ball is "caught." By definition, a catch is gaining possession of a ball in flight. A recovery is gaining possession of a ball that has been grounded.

    If you give any signal as a member of the return team, the ball will become dead immediately when possessed. If the signal is a valid fair catch signal and the ball is caught, you have a fair catch. If the ball is caught, only the player who signaled is protected, but you also can't tee off on a player who caught it when someone else gives the signal.

    If the return player gives the get away signal, it's an invalid signal. There is no penalty other than the return team can't advance it once possessed. You could get a delay of game penalty if you do continue to advance it, but that is rarely called.

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