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    Default Re: Looks like athletes will be able to transfer freely soon

    Quote Originally Posted by KNOW IT ALL View Post
    The three year stipulation will help a lot. Although I could see a kid win a couple FCS titles and decide to try and add an FBS title to his resume as well. I could never blame a top talent from taking a one year deal from a school like Alabama as a stepping stone to a future NFL deal.
    I think the 3 years is what it currently is.

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    Default Re: Looks like athletes will be able to transfer freely soon

    Redshirt rule appears to be in the offing. http://footballscoop.com/news/sounds...le-going-pass/

    NCAA going bananas!
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    As far as transferring at will, it is a dangerous game to play for some colleges. Sure there are always going to be the very top tier who are already cutting scholarship student/athletes along the way to make room for the next blue chip recruits, but most programs have to develop talent after recruiting. It doesn't work for most programs to talk a kid into buying into your development program and then bring in a transfer 2 years in anyways. Do it too much and high school coaches start showing how some schools will not be good matches for them. Dude, they say one thing but they have this history of doing something completely different. Not a little different. They show you the door half way through your development and bring in the transfer. Even though you did everything they asked.

    Now, if programs like NDSU continue to do business like they are, this could actually further strengthen their program. You know what you are going to get, they very rarely accept a transfer, and the transfers they do take have to earn playing time like everyone else. They follow through with what they have told you if you buy in and follow their program. It is not going to work for middle of the road programs who are always replacing someone with someone better. Recruiting will become very difficult. You can't build your program on transfers when transfers are the only ones that will come to your program. I don't think you ignore transfers. They fill in gaps developed by life. There is always attrition even when you don't expect it.

    I do like the redshirt rule. I can see a program like NDSU using it to expand their depth later in the year and exploit development earlier in the year.

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    Default Re: Looks like athletes will be able to transfer freely soon

    Quote Originally Posted by td577 View Post
    As far as transferring at will, it is a dangerous game to play for some colleges. Sure there are always going to be the very top tier who are already cutting scholarship student/athletes along the way to make room for the next blue chip recruits, but most programs have to develop talent after recruiting. It doesn't work for most programs to talk a kid into buying into your development program and then bring in a transfer 2 years in anyways. Do it too much and high school coaches start showing how some schools will not be good matches for them. Dude, they say one thing but they have this history of doing something completely different. Not a little different. They show you the door half way through your development and bring in the transfer. Even though you did everything they asked.

    Now, if programs like NDSU continue to do business like they are, this could actually further strengthen their program. You know what you are going to get, they very rarely accept a transfer, and the transfers they do take have to earn playing time like everyone else. They follow through with what they have told you if you buy in and follow their program. It is not going to work for middle of the road programs who are always replacing someone with someone better. Recruiting will become very difficult. You can't build your program on transfers when transfers are the only ones that will come to your program. I don't think you ignore transfers. They fill in gaps developed by life. There is always attrition even when you don't expect it.

    I do like the redshirt rule. I can see a program like NDSU using it to expand their depth later in the year and exploit development earlier in the year.
    Pretty much agree on the redshirt rule. I think 4 games seems to be a lot, but it is ok. The transfer rule is concerning. The 3 year rule helps, but if you have a pipeline of quarterbacks, you could very well lose one that was to step in next year for a graduating senior. FCS will lose some folks, I think especially on defense and the O-line...a kid shows up as a raw 6-4 freshman d-end, grows into the body and develops some skills. There can never be too many good d ends in the game anymore.

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    Default Re: Looks like athletes will be able to transfer freely soon

    In yesterdays GF Herald there was a bit on -ND getting a transfer from UofM. It went on to list a number of past FBS transfers to -nd and how they panned out. I don't recall it being much better than 50/50 and none of the names really stood out. Its also a good reason why they struggle recruiting of recent as kids are shy to programs who bring in a lot of transfers. YOu Know, work your ass off for a couple years so a transfer can come in and take your position. LOYALTY, a two way street.

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    Default Re: Looks like athletes will be able to transfer freely soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Bison 4 Life View Post
    Redshirt rule appears to be in the offing. http://footballscoop.com/news/sounds...le-going-pass/

    NCAA going bananas!
    Good that's super awesome. Gives FCS more depth. Gives a player more time to develop. This would be HUGE for NDSU in a 4 game playoff. Example let's say we lost a 2 DEs in the last regular season game of the year, we could have played someone like Spencer Waege for the entire playoffs. Could have done the same thing with Josh Hayes and wouldn't have had to play him earlier in the year

    At the bottom of the article it said... (not sure If this was posted already)

    Elsewhere, it sounds as if the proposal to allow a 1-time chance for players to transfer within FBS without sitting out a year is officially dead, at least for this year..
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    Default Re: Looks like athletes will be able to transfer freely soon

    The transfer rule sucks, out right sucks as proposed. Any program that has a good development program basically becomes a training ground for the larger more prestigious programs. You put in the time and money (both the schools and donors) to train the recruit turn them from a boy or a girl to man or a woman and then they can move on without any consequences.

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    Default Re: Looks like athletes will be able to transfer freely soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Bison"FANatic" View Post
    The transfer rule sucks, out right sucks as proposed. Any program that has a good development program basically becomes a training ground for the larger more prestigious programs. You put in the time and money (both the schools and donors) to train the recruit turn them from a boy or a girl to man or a woman and then they can move on without any consequences.
    our AD did not seem to think that way.....says teams get into trouble when teams and players dont do their due diligence vetting each other. i am sure herdbot posted the interview ....kinda interesting

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    Default Re: Looks like athletes will be able to transfer freely soon

    Look what our point guard transferring did to the basketball team and how that caused problems and he did it knowing he had to sit a year. You have outside influence in kids ears now especially in basketball, imagine how much outside pressure will be on them when it becomes easy in football. It will be like a constant recruiting going on either above board or below. The coaches are going to have to protect the players they have now, evaluate and recruit high schools and then if you are going to play ball you better be evaluating athletes that are already on college teams. Just what a coach needs is more on their plate. It will lead to a lot of shady crap being pulled.

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    Default Re: Looks like athletes will be able to transfer freely soon

    Quote Originally Posted by Bison"FANatic" View Post
    Look what our point guard transferring did to the basketball team and how that caused problems and he did it knowing he had to sit a year. You have outside influence in kids ears now especially in basketball, imagine how much outside pressure will be on them when it becomes easy in football. It will be like a constant recruiting going on either above board or below. The coaches are going to have to protect the players they have now, evaluate and recruit high schools and then if you are going to play ball you better be evaluating athletes that are already on college teams. Just what a coach needs is more on their plate. It will lead to a lot of shady crap being pulled.
    If there is a bright side, nobody cares about basketball

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