Messingham Orders Vanilla at Coldstone!!

[Kevin]

He had a record of
8-5 2019
4-6 2020
7-5 with a chance at 8 wins.

Each year they were ranked at some point as well. That's not bad for k state. Getting 8-9 wins in the big 12 is pretty good. Getting his guys/recruits to upper class Jr Sr. Would think to help as well

The new b12 line up should benefit teams like kstate and Iowa state too.

[Bisonwinagn]

Yes there backup QB's are awful not sure anyone will be able to turn this around quickly. Kstate is a development program and was crushed by the lost year of COVID. Not to mention the players would rather protest than play football so there is a serious locker room issue and culture that will take years to fix.

[El_Chapo]

Tyler Roehl is available Chris!!

[Twincitybizon]

Still don't understand the comments about all the awful things they need to fix. They had a decent year. The sky is not falling

[reformedUNDfan]

The talk would be totally different had they beat Texas. They were competetive with everyone they lost to except TCU

[yopaulie]

There is some talk of Polasek for their new OC.

[westnodak93bison]

There is some talk of Polasek for their new OC.

Lmoa

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[MankatoBison]

Unsure of how much this matters, but I listen to a number of national CFB podcasts, like the main one from the Athletic and Associate Press, and both think Klieman is doing a great job fwiw.

I havent heard a lick of "hot seat" talk concerning Klieman, anywhere but here

[Bisonator98]

Really odd he cut Messingham loose. There offense wasn't terrible when they had their good QB. Wonder if there was some pressure applied by someone to make a change.

[KSBisonFan]

Really odd he cut Messingham loose. There offense wasn't terrible when they had their good QB. Wonder if there was some pressure applied by someone to make a change.

Their fan base has been calling for Messingham to be gone for awhile and the Texas game was the final straw. The problem is that Skylar Thompson was inconsistent his entire career. He'd have a few passes every game that made you scratch your head and he didn't seem to see the field well. Then, when he got hurt they were exposed for not having a serviceable backup QB.

I think the one thing Mess trusted was Deuce carrying the load and he used him way too often, running and as Thompson's fallback on screen passes. I'm convinced he'd be around if it wasn't for a couple series in the TX game. It was bad.

With all that said, it's not like K-State has this track record of great OCs. Dimmel was a disaster and a lot of the Snyder years were very one dimensional on offense (QB run, 1 RB focused). Finally, there are a lot of K-Staters who still consider this staff D-II and look for any reason to trash them.