2017 Sagarin Says

[oldmantutters]

Just a reminder guys and gals, if you don't like VNL's coverage, you can also use NDSU's All Access (http://www.gobison.com/watch/?Live=1969&type=Live) to watch and listen. You can also watch VNL's coverage and mute the volume while listening to Bison 1660.

Absolutely no reason to have every game thread filled up with complaints about VNL. We get it, they suck. They might get it too, but probably don't care.

I'm okay overall with VNLs coverage. I just don't think he brings anything positive to the coverage, as in he doesn't add anything. I get why he is there, it's statewide NBC and he is the Western ND NBC does guy but there has to be someone better. Henry Blakes, Cliff Naylor, that Jon guy from Williston, Monica, anyone.

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[THEsocalledfan]

Time to get this baby rolling. Looks like NDSU moved up 1 to 49. The top 25 per Sagarin:

49 North Dakota State AA = 73.79 1 0 4.24( 222) 0 0 | 0 0 | 72.59 56 | 74.14 46 | 73.98 49
70 James Madison AA = 68.85 1 0 61.08( 103) 0 0 | 0 0 | 68.42 74 | 67.65 77 | 69.73 68
74 South Dakota State AA = 68.41 1 0 41.45( 178) 0 0 | 0 0 | 69.51 71 | 68.00 76 | 68.21 74
89 Youngstown State AA = 63.54 0 1 80.66( 31) 0 0 | 0 0 | 65.83 82 | 63.29 90 | 62.79 92
90 Jacksonville State AA = 63.22 1 0 51.02( 138) 0 0 | 0 0 | 62.30 92 | 62.78 91 | 63.79 86
92 Sam Houston State AA = 62.96 1 0 53.59( 128) 0 0 | 0 0 | 61.78 93 | 62.43 93 | 63.70 87
96 Wofford AA = 62.02 1 0 42.12( 176) 0 0 | 0 0 | 59.23 109 | 62.63 92 | 62.68 93
101 Northern Iowa AA = 60.59 0 1 72.95( 56) 0 0 | 0 0 | 61.56 94 | 61.12 101 | 59.86 103
102 Illinois State AA = 60.34 1 0 16.09( 217) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.79 97 | 60.22 102 | 60.19 100
113 Western Illinois AA = 58.29 1 0 42.84( 175) 0 0 | 0 0 | 58.75 114 | 57.49 119 | 58.55 108
118 Villanova AA = 57.79 1 0 49.99( 144) 0 0 | 0 0 | 55.99 126 | 57.75 116 | 58.45 109
120 North Dakota AA = 57.36 0 1 83.74( 19) 0 0 | 0 1 | 58.59 116 | 57.22 121 | 56.93 123
123 Samford AA = 56.54 1 0 45.39( 163) 0 0 | 0 0 | 54.65 130 | 56.55 124 | 57.20 121
125 South Dakota AA = 56.04 1 0 27.39( 206) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.39 102 | 54.76 129 | 55.14 127
127 Eastern Washington AA = 55.89 0 1 76.85( 40) 0 0 | 0 0 | 53.58 134 | 56.96 122 | 56.07 125
128 The Citadel AA = 55.87 1 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 55.99 127 | 55.83 126 | 55.79 126
129 Richmond AA = 54.79 0 1 64.17( 88) 0 0 | 0 0 | 56.19 125 | 55.29 128 | 53.89 130
131 Central Arkansas AA = 53.52 0 1 86.27( 16) 0 0 | 0 1 | 53.72 133 | 53.55 131 | 53.37 132
134 New Hampshire AA = 52.92 1 0 40.33( 181) 0 0 | 0 0 | 50.75 143 | 53.20 132 | 53.51 131
139 Chattanooga AA = 52.22 0 1 64.42( 87) 0 0 | 0 0 | 53.33 136 | 52.62 134 | 51.49 140
140 Tennessee State AA = 51.92 1 0 50.88( 139) 0 0 | 0 0 | 50.12 152 | 50.88 144 | 53.17 134
142 Northern Arizona AA = 51.46 0 1 73.82( 54) 0 0 | 0 0 | 50.54 145 | 52.01 140 | 51.42 141
143 Harvard AA = 50.91 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 50.99 140 | 50.87 145 | 50.86 144
144 Charleston Southern AA = 50.90 0 1 83.12( 20) 0 0 | 0 1 | 48.70 157 | 51.53 143 | 51.29 142
149 Southern Illinois AA = 50.07 0 0 0.00( 0) 0 0 | 0 0 | 50.13 150 | 50.02 151 | 50.02 151

Curious as to why JMU is still lower ranked than NDSU? I know this is mainly historical, and the recently beat NDSU.

Also, this would have NDSU by about 15 with EWU considering home field.

[Mayville Bison]

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Curious as to why JMU is still lower ranked than NDSU? I know this is mainly historical, and the recently beat NDSU.

In the most over-simplifying reason ever, it's because the MVFC teams NDSU has faced (and beaten) has been rated much higher than the CAA teams JMU has faced (and beaten). There's more to it than that, obviously, but can't get data out without putting data in first and the data in has been good to NDSU the past 5 years.

[tjbison]

In the most over-simplifying reason ever, it's because the MVFC teams NDSU has faced (and beaten) has been rated much higher than the CAA teams JMU has faced (and beaten). There's more to it than that, obviously, but can't get data out without putting data in first and the data in has been good to NDSU the past 5 years.

those FBS wins help also

Iowa > ECU

plus NDSU played like 9 top 25 teams last year, it was really something for a schedule

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

In the most over-simplifying reason ever, it's because the MVFC teams NDSU has faced (and beaten) has been rated much higher than the CAA teams JMU has faced (and beaten). There's more to it than that, obviously, but can't get data out without putting data in first and the data in has been good to NDSU the past 5 years.

JUM also lost quite a bit compared to us and reloading with FBS transfers typically doesn’t work out well, but apparently Houston is enough of a badass to overcome the odds (at least on game day … pass the blunt fellas, way to beat the sh*t out of ECU .

[Bison 4 Life]

JUM also lost quite a bit compared to us and reloading with FBS transfers typically doesn’t work out well, but apparently Houston is enough of a badass to overcome the odds (at least on game day … pass the blunt fellas, way to beat the sh*t out of ECU .

Houston is unlikeable, period. I don't usually heap praise over opposing coaches but I didn't dislike John Grass, even Rob Ambrose was mildly humble afterwards. I don't like KC Keeler but Mike Houston tops the bunch.

[oldmantutters]

Houston is unlikeable, period. I don't usually heap praise over opposing coaches but I didn't dislike John Grass, even Rob Ambrose was mildly humble afterwards. I don't like KC Keeler but Mike Houston tops the bunch.

Yeah he isn't just a tool, he's the whole fucking shed. Rewatching the semifinal loss to them his pregame speech rubbed me the wrong way, but I will give him credit, it was effective. They came out fired up and NDSU came out flat.

[Bison 4 Life]

Yeah he isn't just a tool, he's the whole fucking shed. Rewatching the semifinal loss to them his pregame speech rubbed me the wrong way, but I will give him credit, it was effective. They came out fired up and NDSU came out flat.

They can keep him. That's not sour grapes either. I've been to more championship games than I ever thought so I don't care that he got there and we didn't but no way would I ever want that prick as a coach.

[thebootfitter]

JUM also lost quite a bit compared to us and reloading with FBS transfers typically doesn’t work out well, but apparently Houston is enough of a badass to overcome the odds (at least on game day … pass the blunt fellas, way to beat the sh*t out of ECU .

From a Sagarin perspective, the individual players mean zero. Only results on the field matter.

[WhoRepsTheLurker]

From a Sagarin perspective, the individual players mean zero. Only results on the field matter.

Didn't know that. Thanks