2017 Sagarin Says

[BisonNation11]

I keep wondering about JMU and SDSU. Losing Abdullah is major as he was Taiwain Jones in the 2nd half of the 2010 EWU game unstoppable for us. They have a lot of swagger coming into this year, is it legit?

I think SDSU will always be held back, either by the ghost of NDSU or by Stig. We clearly showed we could bleed last year, but are we human?

That wasn't blood. It was hydraulic fluid.

[SoCalBison]

I want to #17 after the 2013 season.

Yes, finished 2013 at #17, just behind Ohio State.

[Hammerhead]

Yes, finished 2013 at #17, just behind Ohio State.

The #13 rating is higher than all but one team in each of the Big Ten divisions.

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaa...13/conference/

[NDSUSR]

That wasn't blood. It was hydraulic fluid.

Leaking horsepower.

[MNLonghorn10]

That and JMU were the only times during our run that someone was "as advertised". Maybe Tre Roberson on that list too. I mean how many players have we heard hyped up "you've never seen anyone like him!" as we hold them to 1.2ypc or something. It's seriously an endless list.

I don't really understand the ins and outs of it myself, but I've heard audit and others mention it includes last years data until week ~6 I think. I believe we will fall most of the season as we don't have an FBS team on the schedule ranked in the top 15 this year. I believe the only way we can help ourselves is if we consistently beat the prediction, but I'm not entirely sure how that all interconnects.





I think you guys are right.

If you take ndsus predictor number and subtract their opponents ....and the outcome of that is higher than the subtracted #...ndsu moves up


So ndsus a 74...sdsu is a 64 or whatever. Ndsu wins 38-31...itll hurt their rating since 7 is obviously less than 10(74-64)

[thebootfitter]

If you take ndsus predictor number and subtract their opponents ....and the outcome of that is higher than the subtracted #...ndsu moves up


So ndsus a 74...sdsu is a 64 or whatever. Ndsu wins 38-31...itll hurt their rating since 7 is obviously less than 10(74-64)

That's pretty much it, though you also have to take into account Sagarin's home field advantage factor too.

[Mr Meaty]

Who really cares what Sagarin says.. We are only a couple of days away from the insightful analysis of Lee Timmerman during games.

[SoCalBison]

Who really cares what Sagarin says.. We are only a couple of days away from the insightful analysis of Lee Timmerman during games.

Go for it. Start a "2017 Timmerman Says" thread.

[oldmantutters]

Who really cares what Sagarin says.. We are only a couple of days away from the insightful analysis of Lee Timmerman during games.

Way to ruin my week by reminding me of Lee Timmerman. *sigh*

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[Christopher Moen]

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