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    Default Re: 2017 Sagarin Says

    One weekend earlier in the season, he didn't post until later Sunday because there was a Sunday game...but I didn't see anything on the schedule today.

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    Default Re: 2017 Sagarin Says

    MAC is playing a game today.

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    Default Re: 2017 Sagarin Says

    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post
    MAC is playing a game today.
    I think I saw Western Michigan was delayed to today due to the field covered in water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gully View Post
    I think I saw Western Michigan was delayed to today due to the field covered in water?
    Maybe they played overtime through the night.

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    Default Re: 2017 Sagarin Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Gully View Post
    I think I saw Western Michigan was delayed to today due to the field covered in water?
    They got a bit of rain on Saturday.



    Personally, I think it would've been awesomely entertaining to see them play on that yesterday but they didn't want to muddy up that high quality MACtion I guess.

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    Default Re: 2017 Sagarin Says

    OK, appears that the flooding in Kalamazoo is over...so back to the Sagarin numbers.

    Bison fall, yes FALL from #39 to #43 after beating the #5 team in FCS...meanwhile, Youngstown moved up one slot, from #74 to #73, losing to the Bison. OUCH! This hurts almost as much as the offsetting penalty call.

    Western Illinois is at #82, and the Bison are 13.5 point favorites next weekend. Go Bison!

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    11 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 61.89 60.26
    College Football 2017 through games of October 15 Sunday
    HOME ADVANTAGE= [ 2.20] [ 3.02] [ 1.37]
    COMBO W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10| VS top 30 ELO BLUE
    19 South Dakota AA = 83.71 6 0 49.93( 160) 0 0 | 0 0 90.84( 12) 76.65( 39)
    31 North Dakota State AA = 80.58 6 0 36.66( 230) 0 0 | 0 0 84.73( 22) 74.83( 46)
    48 Western Illinois AA = 74.14 5 1 51.19( 152) 0 0 | 0 1 77.48( 35) 68.69( 67)
    76 Northern Iowa AA = 65.05 3 3 64.32( 68) 0 0 | 0 1 65.25( 74) 62.02( 93)
    85 Youngstown State AA = 64.03 3 3 61.79( 90) 0 0 | 0 2 56.78( 114) 69.21( 64)
    93 South Dakota State AA = 62.36 4 2 54.19( 129) 0 0 | 0 0 57.24( 113) 64.86( 84)
    120 Southern Illinois AA = 56.54 3 3 54.00( 130) 0 0 | 0 1 53.61( 128) 56.61( 110)
    145 Illinois State AA = 51.88 4 2 42.45( 202) 0 0 | 0 0 52.71( 134) 48.16( 150)
    204 Missouri State AA = 35.86 1 5 54.31( 127) 0 0 | 0 1 36.10( 191) 32.66( 208)
    228 Indiana State AA = 28.46 0 6 60.37( 101) 0 0 | 0 2 21.87( 231) 31.01( 213)

    This is the unbiased rating of the MVFC using only 2017 results (no previous year bias). USD is rated #19 overall in D1 football in the 2017 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalBison View Post
    OK, appears that the flooding in Kalamazoo is over...so back to the Sagarin numbers.

    Bison fall, yes FALL from #39 to #43 after beating the #5 team in FCS...meanwhile, Youngstown moved up one slot, from #74 to #73, losing to the Bison. OUCH! This hurts almost as much as the offsetting penalty call.

    Western Illinois is at #82, and the Bison are 13.5 point favorites next weekend. Go Bison!
    Even if the Bison go undefeated, they will continue to drop in ratings unless they win by a greater amount than Sagarin predicts. Bison did not exceed the prediction so down they go in the rankings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DakotaOkie View Post
    11 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 61.89 60.26
    College Football 2017 through games of October 15 Sunday
    HOME ADVANTAGE= [ 2.20] [ 3.02] [ 1.37]
    COMBO W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10| VS top 30 ELO BLUE
    19 South Dakota AA = 83.71 6 0 49.93( 160) 0 0 | 0 0 90.84( 12) 76.65( 39)
    31 North Dakota State AA = 80.58 6 0 36.66( 230) 0 0 | 0 0 84.73( 22) 74.83( 46)
    48 Western Illinois AA = 74.14 5 1 51.19( 152) 0 0 | 0 1 77.48( 35) 68.69( 67)
    76 Northern Iowa AA = 65.05 3 3 64.32( 68) 0 0 | 0 1 65.25( 74) 62.02( 93)
    85 Youngstown State AA = 64.03 3 3 61.79( 90) 0 0 | 0 2 56.78( 114) 69.21( 64)
    93 South Dakota State AA = 62.36 4 2 54.19( 129) 0 0 | 0 0 57.24( 113) 64.86( 84)
    120 Southern Illinois AA = 56.54 3 3 54.00( 130) 0 0 | 0 1 53.61( 128) 56.61( 110)
    145 Illinois State AA = 51.88 4 2 42.45( 202) 0 0 | 0 0 52.71( 134) 48.16( 150)
    204 Missouri State AA = 35.86 1 5 54.31( 127) 0 0 | 0 1 36.10( 191) 32.66( 208)
    228 Indiana State AA = 28.46 0 6 60.37( 101) 0 0 | 0 2 21.87( 231) 31.01( 213)

    This is the unbiased rating of the MVFC using only 2017 results (no previous year bias). USD is rated #19 overall in D1 football in the 2017 season.
    You don’t want to look at the combo column. That weights ELO equally with BLUE. You want to just look at BLUE stand alone. USD is 39 and NDSU 46. USD would be a half point favorite in the FFD today according to BLUE.
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    Default Re: 2017 Sagarin Says

    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    You don’t want to look at the combo column. That weights ELO equally with BLUE. You want to just look at BLUE stand alone. USD is 39 and NDSU 46. USD would be a half point favorite in the FFD today according to BLUE.
    When is the last time a FCS team was ahead of NDSU in any of the Sagarin rankings? Or has it been more common in the BLUE column?

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