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    Quote Originally Posted by stevdock View Post
    It's interesting how stats can lie sometimes. Look at YPG between 2009 and 2010. Between those two years the YPG went down .1 so you would expect the scoring defense to be about the same, but yet it went down over 10 PPG.

    Also most of us (me especially) think our punter has not been very good since LeCompte graduated, but yet if you look at net punt average, he would be considered our best punter ever.

    I know lots of things go into both of those, but found those two stats very interesting.
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    That drives me nuts. I don't give a shit if every punt is fair caught 39 yards down field. I want someone who can flip the field with a 60 yarder or drop it inside the 10.
    I don't think we allowed a punt return all regular season last year. Yeah they weren't boomed but zero returns has an impact. Where we needed the power is when we were inside the 30, too many ended up fair caught at midfield

    I heard that he has really increased his leg strength this off-season so I would expect big things from Koonse
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    Quote Originally Posted by 56BISON73 View Post
    The frustrating thing about 2009 was we were in almost every game we lost.
    Yep. That team just had the knack for losing just like our recent teams know how to win

    Whether it's Mertens fumbling at the 1 vs Iowa State to tie the game and then the defense promptly giving up a TD, or Paul Cornick getting a dumb personal foul on a game winning drive reversing a 30 yard play, or Mertens ending half the game winning potential drives with a pick...
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    We were tied for 46th in net punting yards at 36 yards per punt which is almost 6 yards less than the top team and less than 2 yards from the 20th ranked team
    http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/98


    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    I don't think we allowed a punt return all regular season last year. Yeah they weren't boomed but zero returns has an impact. Where we needed the power is when we were inside the 30, too many ended up fair caught at midfield

    I heard that he has really increased his leg strength this off-season so I would expect big things from Koonse
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    Quote Originally Posted by aces1180 View Post
    It really is! I look forward to seeing him line-up against Will Ratelle on Sundays!




    You think Ratelle will still be in the NFL after this season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Meaty View Post
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    You think Ratelle will still be in the NFL after this season?
    Weren't Ratelle, Reyes and others that they gush about recruit's of Muss and not the vaunted Bubba???
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtoutfitter View Post
    Weren't Ratelle, Reyes and others that they gush about recruit's of Muss and not the vaunted Bubba???
    Ratt should have been Muss and Reyes should be Bubba.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtoutfitter View Post
    Weren't Ratelle, Reyes and others that they gush about recruit's of Muss and not the vaunted Bubba???
    Correct, I believe they were both originally Muss recruits. Muss definitely recruited some talent, but could never seem to get talent across the whole team. Also didn't seem to know how to manage the talent once he had it.

    Ratelle was a pretty great linebacker considering he was there through some re-building years, and considering his size. I really hope Reyes can make that jump to the next level. Also interested to see if Deion Harris can play up to his potential. He certainly has garnered a lot of off season attention, but if he wants to make the jump and get drafted, he will need to live up to the hype this year.

    You guys have been fortunate enough to pump out NFL talent for several years now, but it is really nice to finally get to see our team get some guys into the conversation. It is certainly a process to build up the program, especially when we have to recruit against regional teams like NDSU and SDSU, and there is still plenty of room to grow, but this program now compared to 5 or 6 years ago is night and day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Meaty View Post
    Ratt should have been Muss and Reyes should be Bubba.
    Reyes is Muss as well. Harris is from the Muss/Bubba transition class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Meaty View Post
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    You think Ratelle will still be in the NFL after this season?
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