I don't care how the vote ended up. They still suck and always will.
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You have to wonder WHY we are seeing starters leave. This is the 2nd starter in 2 years that left after a considerable amount of time invested in the program. Backups I get because they want to play but I think that is a disturbing trend when there is no emotional attachment to the program after 2 or 3 years. Could it be the players are selfish or something deeper like no team chemistry. We will never know but this is eye opening. Heck could you imagine if Brock Jensen or Carson Wentz would have just decided to transfer after starting? We need to either find players who care or create a family atmosphere that makes them care.
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Very disappointing decision by Khy. Is what it is and if he doesn't want to be here it's probably best he leaves now. Time to move on, next man up.
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Outside of Khy there hasn't really been any strange transfers, Carlin was a special circumstance. I don't this can be made into a trend, other players did transfer but that was more about not being good enough to play at this level.
I get that a lot of programs run the weave, my issue isn't so much as the weave as it is more about how the offense seems dysfunctional and not that greatest fit for the talent we had. The weave with LA was great, slow the game down and give that guy the ball with five seconds on the shot clock and he will make something good happen. I do think Dave is a good coach, he was great in his first year and got everything he could out of that team but last year that team was better then how they finished. That loss to IUPUI in my opinion was the most disappointing loss in the entire DI era.
I hope Dave is the coach here for a long time but I do want to see him grow more as a coach.
NDSU to the FBS always. In all ways.
Just a general comment about climbing the ladder in D1. NDSU is going to get kids that are good ballplayers that will have people in their ear telling them they can do better. Most will stay, but we will see this again like every other college around our level. Hell you saw it at Nebraska last year. Happens every year all across the landscape.
Not to go all "Well in D2..." on you guys (except kind of since that's exactly what I'm about to do), but this is becoming a bigger issue at the D2 level as well. In the last few years in the NSIC, we had a kid transfer from St. Cloud State to something called Utah Valley University because people were in his ear telling him he was a "D1 player." He was averaging 20+ ppg at St. Cloud, transferred to Utah Valley and sat a year, then played this past year and averaged 11 a game. He's from Wisconsin, so basically moved out to Utah by himself for two years just to play one season at the next level. To each his own.
Similarly, Nuni Omot was a 6'9" freakishly athletic wing/forward who redshirted and played one year at Concordia-St. Paul. From what I understand, he also had people in his ear telling him he was bigger than D2, so he transferred to Indian Hills Community College and before the season even started there, had been offered by Baylor, where he spent this past season (averaged 4 points and 2 rebounds in 11 minutes per game) and will play next season to finish out his career.
So it's not just mid-major D1s that are suffering from it. So far Augie has managed to keep all of our "could possibly be playing at the next level" types of kids, but I won't be shocked if Coach Billeter brings in a kid or two in the future who is told by friends and family he should be playing at a level higher and tries to make the jump.
What's fascinating to me about this Kabellis situation is the fact that, whenever I watched you guys (probably 5-6 times this year, usually if you were on Midco), I never once thought to myself, Goodness, that's a kid who should be playing at the next level. Not a knock on him at all, as he always seemed very capable and competent, but, to me, if you're capable and competent on a team and you're playing as many minutes as anyone else on the team, you'd think that would be a comfortable place to be. I just can't see him transferring to a higher-major D1 and blowing away coaches and suddenly finding himself as the starting PG for a high-major team. But maybe he'll prove me wrong.
Just some random thoughts from a somewhat impartial observer. Our D2 message board typically dies over the summer. Thanks for letting me jump in here.