Poll: XDSU's to the MVC or stay in the Summit

[wow]

UMKC kowtows athletically to UNI way better than NDSU (maybe SDSU too). Just the same scenario prior to NDSU getting into the MVFC when UNI worked hard to block the Bison's entry (but not SDSU). The Panthers are poor and NDSU's entry to the MVC for Men's Basketball will be a potential big blow to them being able to dominate the conference (now that Creighton and WSU are gone) without investing more money they don't have.

This is spot on IMO. The UNI fanbase has had a taste of basketball success, and now expects it. Adding UMKC makes it more likely that UNI will make the tournament. Adding NDSU/SDSU makes it less likely.

Although we haven't experienced the success of NDSU against UNI, SDSU has gone 3-2 against UNI the last 5 years (4-7 since the DI move). Since joining the Gateway/MVFC SDSU has finished ahead of UNI in the conference standings 5 out of 9 seasons.

xDSU's recruit against them. xDSU's take their top assistants. xDSU's take their top administrators.

Life gets harder for UNI when the xDSU's are in the mix.

[Yote 53]

I hope the Valley adds UMKC. That move will just hasten their slide and the Summit will catch up and pass them even faster.

[HerdBot]

This is spot on IMO. The UNI fanbase has had a taste of basketball success, and now expects it. Adding UMKC makes it more likely that UNI will make the tournament. Adding NDSU/SDSU makes it less likely.

Although we haven't experienced the success of NDSU against UNI, SDSU has gone 3-2 against UNI the last 5 years (4-7 since the DI move). Since joining the Gateway/MVFC SDSU has finished ahead of UNI in the conference standings 5 out of 9 seasons.

xDSU's recruit against them. xDSU's take their top assistants. xDSU's take their top administrators.

Life gets harder for UNI when the xDSU's are in the mix.

Wow we actually agree on something

I'll say this... Ndsu and Sdsu are on the rise as far as name recognition, attendance , tradition, and facilities go. Uni has peaked and has no money. And we don't even spend that much money. Imagine how good our schools would be if (when) we dramatically increase the budgets?

I think uni is actually fearful of The Dakota schools. Not because what we are NOW but what we could become. They use distance as an excuse when Fargo and Brookings are actually CLOSER than Nashville (Belmont) and about the same to Murray Kentucky. Heck the airport in Fargo is 5 minutes from all our facilities and we would be travel partners

Umkc is a chump program that will be 2 easy wins with little upside. Big market yes but the Dakota schools are the biggest teams in their states. We get regional media coverage like Big Ten teams get in their local markets. Heck Rapid City and Bismarck have the Dakota schools as lead stories every night and they are clear across the state. Bison football is available to every household on statewide NBC and is available from eastern Montana to western Minnesota to northern south Dakota. Midco sports net is huge up here. Umkc gets no mention at all because nobody cares

[HerdBot]

I hope the Valley adds UMKC. That move will just hasten their slide and the Summit will catch up and pass them even faster.

And there will be a few teams in the wac looking for homes

[Yote 53]

UNI is third fiddle in Iowa, and a distant third at that. They act all puffy about their status but the reality is very few in Iowa care about UNI. Most just feel they take away resources from Iowa and ISU. It doesn't help that some goofy state senator introduces legislation requiring the Iowa and ISU athletic departments to subsidize UNI because the BCS schools have so much. That is never going to happen and it only hurts UNI's status and makes them look like beggars.

This talk from UNI fans that they could go BCS and into the MAC (or that they would like to), all B.S. They can't afford it. The Panthers are more likely to join Drake in the Pioneer than they are to move to the MAC.

We should all hope the MVC adds a dreg like UMKC. Give it a few years, and as the backslide of that conference continues, UNI, ISU Red & Blue, Mo State, they'll all be lobbying to align with the Dakotas in the Summit. Just wait and enjoy watching all this unfold.

[Bison"FANatic"]

We should all hope the MVC adds a dreg like UMKC. Give it a few years, and as the backslide of that conference continues, UNI, ISU Red & Blue, Mo State, they'll all be lobbying to align with the Dakotas in the Summit. Just wait and enjoy watching all this unfold.

The problem with that thought if it were to happen is they have at least 6 years of tournament payments after the slide would happen, then give them another few years of dragging feet and by that time you are looking at at least a decade. Then on top of that it all hinges on if the slide were to happen.

[Mr Meaty]

The problem with that thought if it were to happen is they have at least 6 years of tournament payments after the slide would happen, then give them another few years of dragging feet and by that time you are looking at at least a decade. Then on top of that it all hinges on if the slide were to happen.

The slide as already begun. Without WSU and Creighton in there the conference is down with only ISU-r and UNI left. UNI in general is in a downward trend. Sure the payments are nice but they are not the end all to stay there. After all Creighton and WSU are leaving and passing on the payments. Sure moving to larger conference and possible bigger paydays. MVC for basketball will be trending downward and continue that direction.

[DePereBisonFan]

I hope the Valley adds UMKC. That move will just hasten their slide and the Summit will catch up and pass them even faster.

If this happens, Summit > MVC.

Why would the MVC raid the Great West. Yikes.

[Yote 53]

Yep. The MVC is already in full slide mode. The current members are in denial but, looking at it from the outside, it is obvious.

[HerdBot]

UNI is third fiddle in Iowa, and a distant third at that. They act all puffy about their status but the reality is very few in Iowa care about UNI. Most just feel they take away resources from Iowa and ISU. It doesn't help that some goofy state senator introduces legislation requiring the Iowa and ISU athletic departments to subsidize UNI because the BCS schools have so much. That is never going to happen and it only hurts UNI's status and makes them look like beggars.

This talk from UNI fans that they could go BCS and into the MAC (or that they would like to), all B.S. They can't afford it. The Panthers are more likely to join Drake in the Pioneer than they are to move to the MAC.

We should all hope the MVC adds a dreg like UMKC. Give it a few years, and as the backslide of that conference continues, UNI, ISU Red & Blue, Mo State, they'll all be lobbying to align with the Dakotas in the Summit. Just wait and enjoy watching all this unfold.

The problem with that thought if it were to happen is they have at least 6 years of tournament payments after the slide would happen, then give them another few years of dragging feet and by that time you are looking at at least a decade. Then on top of that it all hinges on if the slide were to happen.

Well their TV contract now has value but the longer they wait and the more shirty irrelevant teams they add to their conference , the odds of keeping the TV deal goes down. I mean I'm sure there millions of fans who want to watch Loyola and UMKC just because they reside in a big city.