I love NDSU but I completely agree with this about the teacher education program. I wanted to expand my K-8 license to also include teaching HS math, so I went in and talked to them to see which classes I needed to take and they told me I had to take 2 more years of classes. I contacted the state and they told me I had to take 2 more classes and then take a test. I was so frustrated that I came really close to cutting ties with NDSU. If that wasn't exactly the case of we don't care about the student just the money that comes with them, then nothing is. Obviously I did not take those 2 classes from NDSU.