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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU1980 View Post
    I see they have a new pic of PS giving symbolic check for TM donations for 2018. $5.3 million, and from what I found on this thread it was $4.2 million last year. Big jump, apparently due to the increase season tickets. Let's keep it up. http://ndsuathleticfund.com/team-mak...t-team-makers/
    Impressive. I remember 2001 when we only raised 400k
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSU1980 View Post
    I see they have a new pic of PS giving symbolic check for TM donations for 2018. $5.3 million, and from what I found on this thread it was $4.2 million last year. Big jump, apparently due to the increase season tickets. Let's keep it up. http://ndsuathleticfund.com/team-mak...t-team-makers/
    It looks big because 2017 was a "down" year for donations. It was still good, but it flat-lined for a year compared to the previous growth rate. But 2018 caught up and continued the previous growth, so it looks really impressive. Here's the last 4 years of data(all that was available on the TM website). I might see if I can find older years on GoBison.

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            Mem	N Mem	Cash	G&S	Other	Total	to NDSU	
    2014	2430	 150	3.40M	200K	240K	3.80M	3.285M
    2015	3120	 700	3.70M	320K	280K	4.30M	3.850M
    2016	4151	1000	4.70M	300K	700K	5.70M	4.300M
    2017	4254	 100	4.95M	300K	700K	5.95M	4.200M
    2018	4349	 100	5.56M	300K	800K	6.75M	5.300M
    Mem - Total number of TM members
    N Mem - New members for the year(rounded)
    Cash - Total cash donations to TM(mostly seat fees)
    G&S - Trade value for goods and services
    Other - Other
    Total to NDSU - The number on the big check
    Last edited by Hammersmith; 01-28-2019 at 01:24 AM. Reason: added 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammersmith View Post
    It looks big because 2017 was a "down" year for donations. It was still good, but it flat-lined for a year compared to the previous growth rate. But 2018 caught up and continued the previous growth, so it looks really impressive. Here's the last 4 years of data(all that was available on the TM website). I might see if I can find older years on GoBison.

    Code:
            Mem	N Mem	Cash	G&S	Other	Total	to NDSU	
    2014	2430	 150	3.40M	200K	240K	3.80M	3.285M
    2015	3120	 700	3.70M	320K	280K	4.30M	3.850M
    2016	4151	1000	4.70M	300K	700K	5.70M	4.300M
    2017	4254	 100	4.95M	300K	700K	5.95M	4.200M
    2018	4349	 100	5.56M	300K	800K	6.75M	5.300M
    Mem - Total number of TM members
    N Mem - New members for the year(rounded)
    Cash - Total cash donations to TM(mostly seat fees)
    G&S - Trade value for goods and services
    Other - Other
    Total to NDSU - The number on the big check


    Interesting because 2017 was an "up" year for many schools as donors rushed to get the benefit of itemized deductions before the standard deduction was doubled in 2018. The Iowa State AD, an accountant by training, did interviews encouraging people to make their 2018 contributions in 2017.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyPanth View Post
    Interesting because 2017 was an "up" year for many schools as donors rushed to get the benefit of itemized deductions before the standard deduction was doubled in 2018. The Iowa State AD, an accountant by training, did interviews encouraging people to make their 2018 contributions in 2017.
    Is teammakers a calendar year end 12.31.2018 or a fiscal year end (any date besides 12/31), so lets use 8/31/2018 so team makers year matches the school year. Sept to Aug.

    If they are a fiscal year end, August 2018 year end for example, that would include the December 2017 bump in donations to team makers to take advantage of change in tax law.

    Something I heard, persons that didn't prepay 2018 in 2017 were given a 1 time discount of 30-40% to account for the loss of charitable contribution. If that is the case, you could see a lower fiscal 2019 payment by TM.

    Nonetheless TM has come a long ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kab1one View Post
    Is teammakers a calendar year end 12.31.2018 or a fiscal year end (any date besides 12/31), so lets use 8/31/2018 so team makers year matches the school year. Sept to Aug.

    If they are a fiscal year end, August 2018 year end for example, that would include the December 2017 bump in donations to team makers to take advantage of change in tax law.

    Something I heard, persons that didn't prepay 2018 in 2017 were given a 1 time discount of 30-40% to account for the loss of charitable contribution. If that is the case, you could see a lower fiscal 2019 payment by TM.

    Nonetheless TM has come a long ways.
    The state fiscal year and thus NDSUs fiscal year is July 1 to June 31.
    Federal fiscal year is October 1. I worked under both. It was a pain.
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    There was no discount offered for 2018 dues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadwarrior View Post
    There was no discount offered for 2018 dues.

    Since NDSU is a June 30, 2018 fiscal year end. The amounts noted would have included advanced payments made the end of December 2017 with the change in tax law.

    As for discount in dues, a Team Maker that I do work with told he was given a discount. One time deal. Must be FOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kab1one View Post
    Since NDSU is a June 30, 2018 fiscal year end. The amounts noted would have included advanced payments made the end of December 2017 with the change in tax law.

    As for discount in dues, a Team Maker that I do work with told he was given a discount. One time deal. Must be FOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyPanth View Post
    Field of Play?
    Fairly Odd Parents?
    Fashion-obsessed prick?
    THESE are good guesses! (or Fresh Off the Boat)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kab1one View Post
    Is teammakers a calendar year end 12.31.2018 or a fiscal year end (any date besides 12/31), so lets use 8/31/2018 so team makers year matches the school year. Sept to Aug.

    If they are a fiscal year end, August 2018 year end for example, that would include the December 2017 bump in donations to team makers to take advantage of change in tax law.

    Something I heard, persons that didn't prepay 2018 in 2017 were given a 1 time discount of 30-40% to account for the loss of charitable contribution. If that is the case, you could see a lower fiscal 2019 payment by TM.

    Nonetheless TM has come a long ways.
    NDSU is a fiscal year end, but Team Makers is a calendar year end, I believe. I think NDSU, the NDSU Development Foundation/Alumni Association, and Team Makers are three separate legal entities. I ran into it a while back when I tried to compare NDSU and UND giving. You can't do an apples to apples comparison because TM and the Development Foundation are separate entities, while UND's Champions Club is actually just an extension of their Alumni Association and Foundation. You see the fiscal year differences because TM announces their yearly results in late Jan/early Feb, while UND announces in late July/early Aug.

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