Eastern Washington - Beau Baldwin

[HerdBot]

You forgot to mention where Urban was just prior to getting the Florida job. What he accomplished at Utah, along Alex Smith, is what got him the Gator HC job.


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Utah is a pac 12 Power 5 job though which was my original point. Actually they may have been Mountain West then but still a great job

[Christopher Moen]

Utah is a Power 5 job though

Now it is, not back then.


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[td577]

Harbaugh used FCS to show he could coach. He already had a name. He basically had to show he could coach at any level and someone was going to give him a shot. It isn't a route very many people would be able to take, unless you are an ex-NFL QB who expresses an interest in coaching college football.

Tressel already had a history with OSU before YSU. It wasn't some hire out of the blue.

Meyer was never a D1AA/FCS coach.

The list of coaches who have made the jump from FCS HC to P5 HC even via G5 schools is so small, it is extremely exceptional when it happens. Jerry Kill was the exception, not the rule. If Baldwin wants to be a P5 head coach, this route he is taking is probably the best route, by far. If he produces a highly ranked offense within a couple of years at Cal, there is only one job anyone can offer him next. HC at a P5 school or at least HC at a premium G5 school like Houston or Cincinnati where he will get paid.

[HerdBot]

Harbaugh used FCS to show he could coach. He already had a name. He basically had to show he could coach at any level and someone was going to give him a shot. It isn't a route very many people would be able to take, unless you are an ex-NFL QB who expresses an interest in coaching college football.

Tressel already had a history with OSU before YSU. It wasn't some hire out of the blue.

Meyer was never a D1AA/FCS coach.

The list of coaches who have made the jump from FCS HC to P5 HC even via G5 schools is so small, it is extremely exceptional when it happens. Jerry Kill was the exception, not the rule. If Baldwin wants to be a P5 head coach, this route he is taking is probably the best route, by far. If he produces a highly ranked offense within a couple of years at Cal, there is only one job anyone can offer him next. HC at a P5 school or at least HC at a premium G5 school like Houston or Cincinnati where he will get paid.

There are literally twice as many FBS coordinators than FCS head coaches not to mention FBS schools hire NFL coaches too.

It's rarer but I don't think it's mainly because it's FCS. FCS coaches traditionally don't get paid like we pay in the MVFC so you see many of them jump to FBS coordinator jobs for cash. They paid the Charleston Southern coach so little he left to be a coordinator at Coastal Carolina. It took Baldwin years to get to 225k but it doesn't come close to the 450k klieman will make with media fees and bonuses. Heck Farley makes a 350k base salary and Spack is right up there. Pretty big difference for a guy like Baldwin to take a 500k year coordinator job than a Klieman, Spack, or Farley who make way more. So they don't ever go to that pool of coordinators.



Heres a few more I found on a Google search

Jeff Monken
Mike London Richmond to Virginia
Todd Dodge - high school to North Texas
Bill Clark - Texas State (when FCS) to Rice
Terry Bowden -samford to auburn (later NAU Akron)
Hal Mumme - D2 to Kentucky
Rich Ellerson cal poly to army
Bohl to Wyoming
Joe Glen to Wyoming

[td577]

It's rarer but I don't think it's mainly because it's FCS. FCS coaches traditionally don't get paid like we pay in the MVFC so you see many of them jump to FBS coordinator jobs for cash. They paid the Charleston Southern coach so little he left to be a coordinator at Coastal Carolina. Baldwin made 225k but it doesn't come close to the 450k klieman will make with media fees and bonuses. Heck Farley makes a 350k base salary and Spack is right up there.

Also.. there are literally twice as many FBS coordinators than FCS head coaches not to mention FBS schools hire NFL coaches too.

Heres a few more I found on a Google search

Jeff Monken
Mike London Richmond to Virginia
Todd Dodge - high school to North Texas
Bill Clark - Texas State (when FCS) to Rice
Terry Bowden -samford to auburn (later NAU Akron)
Hal Mumme - D2 to Kentucky
Rich Ellerson cal poly to army
Bohl to Wyoming
Joe Glen to Wyoming

You are supporting my conclusion the FCS to P5 jump rarely happens. Bowden was another case where he just needed to show he could coach anywhere as he already had the name. Otherwise, you are pointing out FCS to G5 positions, which aren't all that common either, for that matter.

[Tony Almeida]

Was he the play caller at EW too? If indeed then it is a good hire.

[HerdBot]

You are supporting my conclusion the FCS to P5 jump rarely happens. Bowden was another case where he just needed to show he could coach anywhere as he already had the name. Otherwise, you are pointing out FCS to G5 positions, which aren't all that common either, for that matter.

I never said it happened a lot. I'm just saying why it doesn't happen very often. If Baldwin would have stuck around longer, he would have eventually gotten an offer just like Craig Bohl did

[ByeSonBusiness]

I never said it happened a lot. I'm just saying why it doesn't happen very often. If Baldwin would have stuck around longer, he would have eventually gotten an offer just like Craig Bohl did

Why stick around when you can go elsewhere, make more money, and probably expedite the process?

[td577]

I never said it happened a lot. I'm just saying why it doesn't happen very often. If Baldwin would have stuck around longer, he would have eventually gotten an offer just like Craig Bohl did

You could see him being a Pac 12 coach if he has patience. If that is what he wants, he is probably closer to that now than Bohl.

[scottietohottie]

Maybe Beau just couldn't take the red turf anymore. I can't hardly watch one game let alone a season and all the film studying during the week. He's lucky to not be blind already.