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    lol the Summit won't be better than MVC in our lifetime. SDSU may get a good look for them if they can dump more resources.

    SDSU and Oakland are getting some mention as possible replacements, but wouldn't think it's that serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjbison View Post
    lol...ok, If i hear NDSU turns down an MVC invite my support stops, they would be totally insane to do so
    If NDSU ever turned down an offer from the MVC, I would seriously question the direction of the athletic department. Staying in FCS is directionless enough.

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    What makes the MVC such a great conference? Why did Creighton leave?? Why is Wichita wanting to leave???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bisonator98 View Post
    What makes the MVC such a great conference? Why did Creighton leave?? Why is Wichita wanting to leave???
    They invest pretty heavily into men's basketball I think. Very good attendance/support as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bisonator98 View Post
    What makes the MVC such a great conference? Why did Creighton leave?? Why is Wichita wanting to leave???
    Simple answer, both outgrew the MVC. They are both pretty much high major programs, especially WSU. Creighton got a shot at the private school dream conference, of course they were going to take it.

    As for the rest of the league, all the schools invest heavily in hoops. Yes, even the penny pinching privates but just not on the level of WSU or Creighton. MVC also gets decent exposure with some games on ESPN and the title game is on CBS.

    Even without WSU, the MVC is a clear step up from the Summit.
    NDSU to the FBS always. In all ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bisonator98 View Post
    What makes the MVC such a great conference? Why did Creighton leave?? Why is Wichita wanting to leave???
    It isn't a great conference. It is a much better conference than the Summit and there isn't really a comparison point. They are leaving for better conferences. The Summit has teams leaving for lateral conferences, which aren't anywhere near the MVC.

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    Need to think about what will be, not was, or even is.

    Today the MVC is a one bid league. Take away Wichita and that may be solidified.

    Their RPI was .50 this year. Take away WSU it's .492. The Summits was .485.

    No possible additions are going to guarantee the MVC becomes a two-bid league. PERIOD.

    The MVC has an awesome history. Arch Madness is great.

    Hard to believe, but the Summit's future may be as bright. It also includes more institutional peers and geographic coherence.

    Deal with it.
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    Take NDSU and SDSU out of the Summit and put them into the MVC and you don't have a competition now or going forward.

    Even without WSU, MVC schools spend much more on hoops across the board. If they make the right move in replacing them, they could continue to be a league with multi-bid potential.
    NDSU to the FBS always. In all ways.

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    multi-bid potential. right.

    They had two very good teams this year - WSU and ISUr.

    ISUr didn't make tournament because of the league's quality. Losing WSU will make it worse. Adding XDSU/etc is not going to make the MVC anywhere near good enough for the next tier of teams: UNI, SIU, Loyola, Evansville, XDSU to receive an at large bid.

    What the Summit has is teams that are similar and busting a$$ to get better.

    What the MVC has is a political mess with public/private schools. Yeah. Arch Madness. Are one hundred fans going to travel to St. Louis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison bison View Post
    Need to think about what will be, not was, or even is.

    Today the MVC is a one bid league. Take away Wichita and that may be solidified.

    Their RPI was .50 this year. Take away WSU it's .492. The Summits was .485.

    No possible additions are going to guarantee the MVC becomes a two-bid league. PERIOD.

    The MVC has an awesome history. Arch Madness is great.

    Hard to believe, but the Summit's future may be as bright. It also includes more institutional peers and geographic coherence.

    Deal with it.
    This^^^^

    This isn't your daddy's MVC or Summit. They are trending in opposite directions.

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