Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir."
Scrooge-"Are there no prisons?". "Plenty of prisons..."
Scrooge-"And the Union workhouses." . "Are they still in operation?". "Both very busy, sir..."
"Those who are badly off must go there."
"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."
Scrooge- "If they would rather die," "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."
Here's an NCAA tournament between the 2. I'll exclude WSU since they are leaving.
Illinois State - 3 round of 32 appearances
Southern Illinois - 3 sweet 16 appearances, 1 round of 32 appearances
UNI - 1 sweet 16 appearance, 3 round of 32 appearances
Loyola - 1 Final 4 appearance, 2 sweet 16 appearances
Bradley - 2 final 4 appearances, 2 sweet 16 appearances
Missouri St - 1 sweet 16 appearance
Evansville - 1 round of 32 appearance
Drake - 1 Final Four, 2 elite 8's
Indiana St - 1 Final four, 1 round of 32
These don't include how often they made tournament and lost in first round
Summit Conference
South Dakota - no appearances
NDSU - 1 round of 32, 3 total tournament appearances
Omaha - no appearances
SDSU - 4 total appearances
IPFW - no tournament appearances
Denver - no tournament appearances
IUPUI - 1 tournament appearances
Western Illinois - no tournament appearances
Oral Roberts - 1 Elite Eight, 5 total appearances
Summit's a pretty nice smaller conference, but it has a long ways to go on so many levels to be anywhere close to the MVC.
This year the MVC has an RPI of 12 and the Summitt has an RPI of 18 in a year when UNI was below 500. Of course if you take the top Summit teams away it's not even close. Getting all the football schools together in the same conference would be a huge deal for everything. Heck we could even have a conference Championship game on a weekend.
If the old high school crush is ugly than our current girl is a guy in a dress with a wig and a dick.
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I bet if we were in the Summit our MBB attendance would be higher
I know for a fact I would much rather watch UNI than WIU or Ooypooy
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If you take out one team MVC team (ya know the one that is planning on leaving), they are the same. You take out the top two teams (that both got shafted by being in the MVC), the Summit is better. You take out the top four MVC teams (that are wondering if the conference has a future for them) and it's not even close.
Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir."
Scrooge-"Are there no prisons?". "Plenty of prisons..."
Scrooge-"And the Union workhouses." . "Are they still in operation?". "Both very busy, sir..."
"Those who are badly off must go there."
"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."
Scrooge- "If they would rather die," "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."
Trying to come up with an analogy for what you just said... I'll try football because it sounds funnier
If you take out Ohio State, Michigan State, and Michigan out of the Big Ten East... it's better than the Big Ten West. If you take out Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan, AND Penn State out of the Big Ten East... it's not even close. The West is way better.
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It is 2017.
Loyola was in the Final Four in 1963. It joined the MVC in the last five years.
That carries exactly zero water today as do some of your other examples.
The MVC has been getting weaker for a decade and I don't need to wear sunglasses when looking into its future.
Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir."
Scrooge-"Are there no prisons?". "Plenty of prisons..."
Scrooge-"And the Union workhouses." . "Are they still in operation?". "Both very busy, sir..."
"Those who are badly off must go there."
"Many can't go there; and many would rather die."
Scrooge- "If they would rather die," "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."