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    Quote Originally Posted by wow View Post
    IMO NDSU, and to a lesser but still impactful way SDSU, waltzed into the MVFC and smacked them in the face. I remember fans talking about how it would take the xDSU's 15 years at least to compete. LOL

    The xDSU's would do the same in basketball. We would walk in better than 2/3 of their current teams (just like football). With improved recruiting, within 5 years we would both be finishing top 3 consistently (just like football).

    Edit: But facilities, attendance, money! BFD, we would be upper half in no time in those metrics as well.
    I think this is right. I'm not overly optimistic a move to the MVC will happen, but the XDSUs would be competitive fairly quickly in BB if it did.
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    I've heard from people in-the-know that the MVC is targeting teams which will allow it to remain a bus league. I think most of us have resigned ourselves by now to the fact that none of the XDSUs are getting an invite. More difficult to accept is that Murray State may be pushed down our throats in football and we're told to like it. If this happens, I hope the Summit schools consider other options...perhaps forming a new football league with the best of the Big Sky and any MVFC schools that want to come. But this new league would be dominated by Summit teams. I know...unrealistic.

    Despite the arrogance over on MVCfans.com, I've enjoyed reading the posts these past few weeks. I wish the Summit had such a forum. I do enjoy when Jax and Yote fans come over here. Even a UND fan from time to time. It would be great to have a central meeting place to have those discussions about issues of common interest, and also to needle each other with smack.
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    Again, no way we should stand for them pushing shitty teams into the FB conference, stupidity

    See what happens but the history shows the powers in the MVC are not smart on expansion
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    Again, no way we should stand for them pushing shitty teams into the FB conference, stupidity

    See what happens but the history shows the powers in the MVC are not smart on expansion
    They did the Summit a solid by letting UND and USD in, when they may want something in return, you are going to pout?
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    I'm afraid UMKC is probably in our future once the Horizon starts poaching Summit schools.
    There isn't exactly a lot of difference between UMKC and IUPUI, urban commuter schools with five fans between them. Just stay away from Omaha and Denver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUstudent View Post
    There isn't exactly a lot of difference between UMKC and IUPUI, urban commuter schools with five fans between them. Just stay away from Omaha and Denver.
    Agreed. But Omaha and Denver are exactly who I fear will be targeted by the Horizon. Both of them together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjbison View Post
    if only this actually mattered, Patty V isn't the voter. If the MVC wants a shit school I guarantee they will get it. The MVC loves to water down leagues why not start in the MVFC also
    The writing has been on the wall since the MVFC added UND, I just had a feeling there was something going on behind that scenes to get the eastern schools on board with that idea.

    Honestly I don't even mind Murray what I hate is that they will now push for divisions based on geography and it will be completely unbalanced. The Dakota schools need to put their foot down to divisions. Zero reason to have them other then the east schools wanting to be cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUstudent View Post
    The writing has been on the wall since the MVFC added UND, I just had a feeling there was something going on behind that scenes to get the eastern schools on board with that idea.

    Honestly I don't even mind Murray what I hate is that they will now push for divisions based on geography and it will be completely unbalanced. The Dakota schools need to put their foot down to divisions. Zero reason to have them other then the east schools wanting to be cheap.
    Yeah but UND is actually a pretty good team and has built in rivalries with the other Dakota schools. They actually do some good things for the conference. They are also solid in attendance (Ndsu, sdsu, USD big draws) and are investing in their program. You can't say the same for Murray who UND would curb stomp. Und actually raises the profile of the league slightly
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    Missouri State? Missouri State?????

    Missouri State has won 20 games exactly one time in the last 6 seasons!!! They've lost 20 games twice. They haven't been to the NCAA since 1999. I'm sure their program will magically get better now that WSU/CU are gone, sort of how Augie got good once all the Dakota's cleared out of DII. The Dakota schools have already passed MSU and are equal to ISUr.

    This is the problem with the MVC/Summit discussion, fan perception in nowhere near reality when it comes to the quality of MVC basketball programs sans WSU. The selection committee clearly understands reality, and that is why ISUr was snubbed.

    Five years ago, I would have supported a move to the MVC in a heartbeat. Not anymore. Not saying it couldn't work or end up being good, but the shine is off the MVC for this fan.
    Saying because the committee didnt choose ISU is bad reasoning. They generally arent good at evaluating teams.
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    Yeah but UND is actually a pretty good team and has built in rivalries with the other Dakota schools. They actually do some good things for the conference. They are also solid in attendance (Ndsu, sdsu, USD big draws) and are investing in their program. You can't say the same for Murray who UND would curb stomp. Und actually raises the profile of the league slightly
    I know that was tough, giving the Whioux a compliment, but you are exactly right.

    Yeah, the rest of the conference did a solid when they brought UND in. As for USD, we were fully prepared to go to the BSC. The MVC schools let us in out of their own self-preservation, don't forget that. It would have been just a matter of time before the XDSU's would have been pulled over to the BSC with us and formed an eastern division with the Montanas and UNC. In hindsight, that might not have been a bad deal either.

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