Bison Fatigue

[89MTBISON]

So they're on par with us. We could easily do G5 if our regional rivals could move as well. I find myself watching MVFC over P5 games every weekend, there's got to be a market, albeit small, for us to fit in at the next level.

[ByeSonBusiness]

The bison are a great national brand-you keep building off that. What is Green Bay tv footprint? you build the audience outside of the area... I mean South Bend Indiana is 100K and there FBS team is an independent and doing quite fine I heard... And sure most will claim we can never be like Notre Dame... probably the same people that 6 years ago would have said NDSU will never have a guy go #2 in the draft or win 7 of 8 titles or be undefeated against the power 5 this decade. you build a brand and tradition...

I am sure 20 years ago someone said- hey lets build Gonzaga basketball into a national brand and compete with duke and Carolina and got laughed out of every bar in town...

The school in South Bend has literally, a religious following and a brand that got built 100 years ago when the football universe was young and forming. Also in a state with trash for football competition, and an hour from the 3rd biggest city in the United States, which is another state with trash for football competition. Also rather convenient to have a nickname that one of the biggest immigrant ethnic groups could identify with. Notre Dame couldn't develop into what they are now if they tried to do it again today. They had a stupid amount of good fortune that turned Notre Dame into Notre Dame.

There isn't a school today that can pull that off, including the school that did manage to. Could say the same about Green Bay Packer football. Weird situations from 75-100 years ago led to some outliers that don't make sense. It doesn't make sense to strive to be the exceptionally weird outliers.

[Bisman]

Last years average attendance was 18,884 in a 29,181 stadium.

Cowboy fatigue. A move down to FCS would take care of it, Vet.

[JMB]

I'm no fan of moving up. How does Wyoming do it? Smaller population. Much less interest locally and nationally. Those cowboys are more interested in rodeo than football. There's more to it than money. Geography plays a role as well.

Poorly..........

[Christopher Moen]

Those G5 hosers are afraid of us, every....last....one of em. We'll have to elbow our way in.

As I and a few others have pointed out before, the "split" already happened when the CFP became a thing with only a four team bracket and the NCAA agreed to allow the P5 conferences to have autonomy (https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...er-conferences). Both came around/started in 2014. Unfortunately, the G5 conferences don't want want to admit they're on the outside looking in. I know this from my personal conservation at a SportsCorp Luncheon with the Mountain West front office personal in the Summer of 2016 (this was the same time they laughed nearly hysterically about my claim that NDSU would be beating Iowa).

In regards to moving up, read this article: https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ence-shuffling

The FBS conferences are all about viewership and how their content is being viewed by fans. That's why this commercial is a very promising indicator about the future of NDSU football:

[SoCalBison]

sure but when the P5 cherry picks some G5 schools to go, they'll need something. I'm still inclined to believe it's the intention for all P5 conferences to go to 18 for an even 80 teams.

Great. Bison will join the G5, win out, and be considered the 81st best team in the country. A standard of excellence to which we should all aspire.

[AKBison]

Great. Bison will join the G5, win out, and be considered the 81st best team in the country. A standard of excellence to which we should all aspire.

Your analysis sucks. With that rationale, I guess being the FCS champ is like being the 131st best D1 team? Right?????

[89MTBISON]

[QUOTE=Christopher Moen;1381004]As I and a few others have pointed out before, the "split" already happened when the CFP became a thing with only a four team bracket and the NCAA agreed to allow the P5 conferences to have autonomy (https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...er-conferences). Both came around/started in 2014. Unfortunately, the G5 conferences don't want want to admit they're on the outside looking in. I know this from my personal conservation at a SportsCorp Luncheon with the Mountain West front office personal in the Summer of 2016 (this was the same time they laughed nearly hysterically about my claim that NDSU would be beating Iowa).

In regards to moving up, read this article: https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ence-shuffling

The FBS conferences are all about viewership and how their content is being viewed by fans. That's why this commercial is a very promising indicator about the future of NDSU football:

Excellent post Chris. The gears are turning, but slowly. Surely our championship moving to ABC is more than coincidence. When that second tier door opens, we'll already be positioned to elbow our way in. You've seen first hand the insecurity MWC folks have about us, similar to Farley lobbying to keep us out of the MVFC. They know we can challenge them on the field, and for eyeballs and the money that goes with it. We'll need our regional peers at this level to move in sync with us.

[NDSU1980]

Oh. I thought for sure I read someplace that it was 8 out of 8. My bad.

Well I promised Lakes years ago that when we got our EightPeat I'd be fully in support of moving up. Since we don't have 8 in a row we can't move up. Call me after we win another 6 in a row. Until then I'm firmly in the FCS camp.

[Hammerhead]

ESPN has probably given more attention to NDSU football than Wyoming in the last 10 years.

I'm no fan of moving up. How does Wyoming do it? Smaller population. Much less interest locally and nationally. Those cowboys are more interested in rodeo than football. There's more to it than money. Geography plays a role as well.