This is a bad look for everyone involved. How can a 2016 venue not meet those standards? Really bad.
This is a bad look for everyone involved. How can a 2016 venue not meet those standards? Really bad.
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Only way to fix the BSA was with a bulldoozer.
NDSU to the FBS always. In all ways.
North Dakota State, a football team the big boys of college football should avoid like the plague, helped christen a $90 million renovation to Snyder Family Stadium — including a statue of famed Kansas State coach Bill Snyder himself — by taking a sledgehammer to the place.Bob Lutz, The Wichita Eagle, August 30th, 2013
if the usher just shuts up and gives her a chair to sit next to her daughter, this issue doesn't arise?
NDSU TO FBS. HAVEN'T WE WON ENOUGH?
He and firm didn't go at it alone... 360 was involved as a consultant and they're a well know arena designer. Think this profile is for Advent they must have been involved in the lobby/locker room/hall of fame design.
https://www.architectmagazine.com/pr...omplex-at-ndsu
The bad thing is some of this can be let thru the cracks due to interpretation of the architect, supplier/installer, and AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction meaning the building inspectors and plan reviewers this varies depending on jurisdiction probably the state in this case I think for ND regarding ADA). But the final say is the DOJ which is what happened here but they don't get brought in until a suit is brought against the owner and they super fine tooth comb it.
Usually in construction it is a collaboration of the three/four parties to try to meet ADA codes for their specific situations. Down side is NDSU probably had little input on stuff like this as I can't imagine they blatantly requested to make SHAC non compliant and were wanting to make it ADA compliant. They rely on architect (and engineers if structural elements need to be considered don't know that was the issue here being it was seating arrangements and sight lines) and suppliers/installers knowing what needs to be met. It seems like it should be simple but many times it isn't as simple as you'd think because at same time you're trying to abide by other building codes too as well.
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Right, which is why you pay an architectural firm big money to design the place. That way you don't end up with an arena that looks like temporary seating stuffed into a high school gym. I know the cost savings keeping the existing structure was a factor, but even given that, they did a really poor job.
Either the architect was incompetent, or NDSU insisted on things some committee came up with on a checklist instead of letting them design a proper arena. Perhaps both. In either case, NDSU signed off on the final design so they bear most of the responsibility.
The fact of the matter is NDSU should absolutely go after the designers. Architect and engineering companies write checks all the time to fix their code compliance booboos. No reason this should be any different.
Sometimes if the architect/engineer has done an otherwise great job and the client is otherwise happy, they’ll let it slide. Considering this is far from the only complaint against the job the architects did, I certainly don’t think that applies here.
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