NDSU looks at possible football game at Target Field

[CAS4127]

For F sakes gabe I am the Department head for A CJ program I know a lil something about crime stats and objectivity. I also know a bit about crime analysis and how that all works. we are talking about 12 blocks you are taking the crime rates of MPLS and trying to extrapolate them on those 12 blocks. Your talking out your ass cuz you dont like the idea and you had a bad experience.

How much of the crime rate is attributable to those 12 "square" blocks. Let's see the stats?

Who's talking out of their ass here?


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[56BISON73]

I do live for it and I would get over it.



I spend a LOT of time hanging out and walking around downtown at late night hours. Sure, there is crime, but there is crime in any city downtown. There have been incidents in Fargo too, does that mean it's unsafe and a cesspool on Broadway? Not at all.

You were probably walking down 7th St on the City Center side of the street because there is a bus stop there. So scary. Walk on the other side of the street or use 6th St if it bothers you that much to be surrounded by black people, er excuse me "gangstas".

Typical naysayers right now that always push down any good idea. Some saying the donors will be pissed...have you thought maybe some of the donors are behind this? Plus, if you won't support NDSU doing this, where do your allegiances lie? You are really going to get sour grapes over this shit so much that you would cry and not go? Please. Get over yourself. You not going only hurts NDSU...do you really want to do that? Fine, if you can't afford it, no hard feelings. Sour grapes is a BS excuse, especially when I know you drive all over PL. If you don't like downtown, stay in the burbs and take the damn train.

Seriously get over yourselves. You know damn well if NDSU schedules this game, some of you will be the first people starting the "Roll Call thread". Don't let your ego and selfishness get in the way of what might be best for NDSU and the program. Don't you at least trust that Larsen will look at the cost/benefit of doing such a game? You think he's going to be so shortsighted to not ask the donors? C'mon. Have some damn faith.

Not everything is sour grapes, ego or being selfish. Its called personal preferences. I dont care for FB in a BB stadium, I dont care to drive downtown MPLS nor do I like to spend a lot of time there, I dont care to jump on the trams in a big city.

Then to say if I dont go to the game it will hurt NDSU? LOL I thought we were going to pack the place?

There is also the issue or not of losing a home game. Of course I would not be in favor of that.

As much as you are bewildered that some arent jumping on this bandwagon I am equally bewildered at people wetting themselves over a FB game in a BB stadium. Put it in a FB stadium with a good opponent and you will have my full attention.

[HerdBot]

If there is a game ill be there dont matter how shity the opponent or venue. but ive been saying since i heard about US bank that we should do a home and home with UNI there lets take all of the cities recruits to the MVF.

We already get our picks of players who don't go Power 5. Playing a shitty team in a baseball stadium that's half empty won't suddenly make us bigger than the Gophers. The Twin Cities media won't even cover it.

[MAKBison]

How much of the crime rate is attributable to those 12 "square" blocks. Let's see the stats?

Who's talking out of their ass here?


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You are now :-) ....lets also adjust for the true population in that same area and see the real Percent of crime verses the volume of people. Of course you can argue about the hidden crime. I would venture to say adjusted for real population, DT fargo has the same amount of crime as DT MPLS.

[MAKBison]

Now this is funny MPLS actually has it crime rates up on the web.... per precinct....I bet we can get audit to actual do this for us. It would be funny to see

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/police/.../WCMS1Q-068296

[Jay]

We already get our picks of players who don't go Power 5. Playing a shitty team in a baseball stadium that's half empty won't suddenly make us bigger than the Gophers. The Twin Cities media won't even cover it.

Earlier you said we could get close to 50k?? Now it's half empty.

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/show...57#post1155557

[CAS4127]

You are now....lets also put the true population in that same area and see the real Percent.

Nice try! LMAO!


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[CAS4127]

Not everything is sour grapes, ego or being selfish. Its called personal preferences. I dont care for FB in a BB stadium, I dont care to drive downtown MPLS nor do I like to spend a lot of time there, I dont care to jump on the trams in a big city.

Then to say if I dont go to the game it will hurt NDSU? LOL I thought we were going to pack the place?

There is also the issue or not of losing a home game. Of course I would not be in favor of that.

As much as you are bewildered that some arent jumping on this bandwagon I am equally bewildered at people wetting themselves over a FB game in a BB stadium. Put it in a FB stadium with a good opponent and you will have my full attention.

His response was typical of "progressive" thinkers. Attack in a way that they think will make you feel badly rather than any substance on real point of contention.


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[MAKBison]

Nice try! LMAO!


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Sounds like a cop out...I think you should go ahead and explain how I am theoretically wrong....maybe we all learn something.

I will admit, the percent may indeed be higher but I bet its not drastic (when adjusted for real population, I bet its very close to the same as Fargo....of course, I could be wrong, but I dont think i will be)

[56BISON73]

His response was typical of "progressive" thinkers. Attack in a way that they think will make you feel badly rather than any substance on real point of contention.


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If its a crappy opponent I will look at this game just like I do Western Illinois.