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    Quote Originally Posted by ByeSonBusiness View Post
    I bet PJ Fleck would rather row the boat to a fcs game in Frisco than to a New Years bowl game.
    That is how the P5 conferences will keep the G5 conferences both interested in being the go to place for scheduling and keeping them in their place by throwing them a bone. WMU, even with their unblemished record, might not be the school rowing their way to the Cotton Bowl, either. They still need help by way of Temple over Navy.

    I honestly don't know what the public reception of a G5/select FCS tier playoff system would go? I just don't know if the G5 conferences are maximizing their potential staying where they are at with one school being crowned the mid-major champion by rankings, getting to a New Year's 6 bowl, and drawing the 5th runner up to the CFP. It is all about the money and not football. Maybe there is a way it can be about both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by td577 View Post
    That is how the P5 conferences will keep the G5 conferences both interested in being the go to place for scheduling and keeping them in their place by throwing them a bone. WMU, even with their unblemished record, might not be the school rowing their way to the Cotton Bowl, either. They still need help by way of Temple over Navy.

    I honestly don't know what the public reception of a G5/select FCS tier playoff system would go? I just don't know if the G5 conferences are maximizing their potential staying where they are at with one school being crowned the mid-major champion by rankings, getting to a New Year's 6 bowl, and drawing the 5th runner up to the CFP. It is all about the money and not football. Maybe there is a way it can be about both.
    Fair argument.

    I don't think WMU could complain about Navy potentially being in front of them. Getting a shot at a big dog (ala Utah and Boise) and winning is IMO bigger than anything the FCS can provide. How many folks remember Boise beating TCU in the 2009 Fiesta Bowl? Nobody. They remember the Oklahoma win.
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    Coastal going to FBS in a state with 2 major programs and not a huge fanbase. Football not even their main sport. And yet NDSU can't make the move?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC_TX View Post
    Coastal going to FBS in a state with 2 major programs and not a huge fanbase. Football not even their main sport. And yet NDSU can't make the move?
    Yawn. Weve been down this road before.
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    At the current stste of college football, NDSU is not going FBS. Grt that through you dreamers heads. For those who think we can, answer these questions for me.

    1. What conference would invite NDSU with their small media market?
    2. Who pays for an athletic budget thet would need to be 40 million+ a year?
    3. Who pays for a new stadium at 100 million + ?

    There are many more reasons not to go FBS. These are the main 3. Maybe it will start raining money...I dont know. Plus, who wants to get punped up for a semi final game for a chance to play for another national championship when we could be getting pumped up for a trip to the Raycom Media Camellia Bowl, right?
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    Sure. Staying in FCS is accepting that this is the best NDSU football can and will EVER be. Now every year we don't win a national title is a disappointment. Either take advantage now and get bigger or just accept that from here on out everything is downhill

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC_TX View Post
    Sure. Staying in FCS is accepting that this is the best NDSU football can and will EVER be. Now every year we don't win a national title is a disappointment. Either take advantage now and get bigger or just accept that from here on out everything is downhill
    Good point...every year we keep this streak going just hammers home even more that we need to make the move. Honestly I think in 10-15 years we will be FBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC_TX View Post
    Sure. Staying in FCS is accepting that this is the best NDSU football can and will EVER be. Now every year we don't win a national title is a disappointment. Either take advantage now and get bigger or just accept that from here on out everything is downhill
    There's a huge difference between accepting what the Bison are right now in football and understanding the finances and logistics to move up.

    There is absolutely no way NDSU can succeed moving up without a conference invitation and the money needed to fund the move. Heck, right now, they're barely able to afford being FCS and having FCOA for all sports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SC_TX View Post
    Coastal going to FBS in a state with 2 major programs and not a huge fanbase. Football not even their main sport. And yet NDSU can't make the move?
    You do realize they got a sugar daddy for a coach,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Moen View Post
    There's a huge difference between accepting what the Bison are right now in football and understanding the finances and logistics to move up.

    There is absolutely no way NDSU can succeed moving up without a conference invitation and the money needed to fund the move. Heck, right now, they're barely able to afford being FCS and having FCOA for all sports.
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