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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerhead View Post
    The site below lists the Fargo-Valley City market at 115th with 240K TV homes. Add the 164K for western ND (139th largest) and you have a North Dakota market which is the 74th largest similar in size to Spokane, Omaha, and Rochester.

    https://www.tvb.org/Portals/0/media/...-dma-ranks.pdf
    I don't know where to find the stats, but the first measure is how many TVs are watching Bison football right now on Saturdays. You can't start anywhere but there. Then from the availability within the markets, there has to be some reasonable projections in a G5 or P5 conference. Now you have to do the same for BB. Those are the first figures that NDSU has to bring to the table before anyone would take a look.

    If every one of those 400k homes with a TV were tuned into a Bison game on Saturdays, that probably get close to bringing in the bare minimum to get a token look today. Of course, that isn't happening. The bottom line is that the big money comes from the TV deals and a school has to show it can bring enough viewers to the table to cash in with advertisers. ESPN is certainly helping with national branding that could turn NDSU into a commodity that transcends the regional area. Even then, there has to be some long term projections keeping that going and how to work in possible apathy into the equation.

    Boise State didn't garner new fans because of their program. They garnered the viewership of football fans because they were willing to play on other nights of the week and fans wanted to watch football. Any football. It was a gimmick that worked and Boise was the recipient of it. There certainly isn't new BSU fans out of it all. NDSU could pull off gaining new fans out of more exposure because everything about ND and Fargo is straight up goofy and interesting to anyone not from here. The interesting part of all of this is how much and for how long. I don't think there is enough there for any P5 conference to chance adding a school who might not bring equal food to the table and we all know the G5 is a lateral move at the moment.

    I like dreaming as much as the next guy, but the reality is football isn't enough and we just don't have the support necessary yet to be as attractive. The wild card in all of this is ESPN. They are kingmakers and strange things happen when they get involved in things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by td577 View Post
    I don't know where to find the stats, but the first measure is how many TVs are watching Bison football right now on Saturdays. You can't start anywhere but there. Then from the availability within the markets, there has to be some reasonable projections in a G5 or P5 conference. Now you have to do the same for BB. Those are the first figures that NDSU has to bring to the table before anyone would take a look.
    What you're talking about is secondary. Rutgers and Maryland were added to the B1G because of the amount of cable customers those markets added to the B1G subscriber list, not how many viewers might watch the channel. There were obviously residual benefits in advertising revenue as the B1G could show advertisers they had more people watching the channels since the subscriber base was bigger, but it is nowhere near what they were able to gain from subscriber fees. That is the reason the actual size of the market matters more than the percentage of viewers tuning in at a particular time.

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    Abcdumb- youre right about big ten & cable with BTN

    But you're very wrong with the rest . Mountain West Mac even big12 want more exposure & reach. Broadcast tv gives them that especially using 1 of the 4 major networks and knowing that they are reaching the MOST viewers for thier advertisors
    NDSU TO FBS. HAVEN'T WE WON ENOUGH?

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    This is going to piss a lot of you off.

    http://www.inforum.com/news/4061674-...be-second-tier

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    Quote Originally Posted by BisonNeil View Post
    This is going to piss a lot of you off.

    http://www.inforum.com/news/4061674-...be-second-tier
    Staying in the second tier of D1 is what Larsen and Taylor before him have been consistently saying for some time now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BisonNeil View Post
    This is going to piss a lot of you off.

    http://www.inforum.com/news/4061674-...be-second-tier
    Not sure what you mean. This has been the expectation all along and seems like a good decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BisonNeil View Post
    This is going to piss a lot of you off.

    http://www.inforum.com/news/4061674-...be-second-tier
    Thats exactly where we need to be at this juncture..
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    Quote Originally Posted by BisonNeil View Post
    This is going to piss a lot of you off.

    http://www.inforum.com/news/4061674-...be-second-tier
    It doesn't appear to have pissed off the masses. Most of us know that DB will do what is best for us,and staying FCS for now is the best.

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    If anything the article is going to make the rest of the FCS unhappy.
    The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
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    The only issue I have with what Bresciani said, is that I'd say we are currently atop the third tier. Figure the P-5, then the G-5, then FCS. Moving up to the top of the second tier would be just fine with me.

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