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    Default Looking ahead to the 2016 Bison

    Again, like every year, it seems like we lose a lot (Wentz, Haeg, Kelly, Vraa, Bonnett/Albers/Cyr, Schaetz, CJ and Champ, LeCompte), but we were actually pretty damn young this year and have a ton of returning experience. Can’t help but look ahead:

    Offense
    QB: Stick got a massive amount of experience this year, should be running the show for 3 more years. Will be fun to see him develop as a passer. Don’t know what we have behind him, but Davis was good enough to be in competition for the backup role in fall camp this year.
    RB: Frazier had a monster second half of the year, Anderson is a stud that should only benefit from a year of Jim Kramer and hopefully get’s more carries, Dunn showed some big play potential. Wonder if Morlock will get some consideration to move to more of a fullback role, or use him all over like Bonnet? Hope Purifoy can add depth if we need it.
    FB/TE: Wentz/Illies/Jensen/Ellefson will compete to fill the TE spots. Sargeant/Robbins at FB. Lot of experience and great blocking to replace, but we used these guys less in the passing game this past year.
    WR: RJ/Shepherd/Williams all back and should benefit from an offseason of work with Stick. Marquise Bridges will be in the mix. Hope Frandsen/Hawkins can find a way to contribute. Does incoming freshmen Engel get a look?
    OL: I think this will be the most fun group to watch through the spring and fall camps. Lechler, Johnson and Kuhnert (who I think is very underrated) return, as does Plankers who played a ton. Does Lechler move to LT, Plankers at RT, and put Ziemer in at RG? Does one of the younger guys (Conner, Volson, Bacon) step up into a starting role? Hope to see a lot of guys play and get experience. Lechler, Johnson, and Plankers will all be seniors, and we had some guys from last year’s recruiting class transfer already.

    Losing an NFL QB and LT, the program’s all-time leading WR, and several big contributors will hurt, but we have so much returning, and a lot of youth in the skill positions. Not often that a team can turn to an undefeated backup with 3 playoff wins. Would love to see the OL develop some depth, and for us to involve the TE’s more. Excited to see Bridges and Ellefson. Said this last year, but I hope Polasek improves as a situational play caller as well.

    Defense
    DE: Ambrosius and Menard , Jones/Butler/Tuszka got some great reps. Some good redshirts at DE as well (Tuszka/Karcz), should be good competition for snaps.
    DT: Tanguay still has two years left, which is absolutely insane. Steidl and Morgan both played a lot of snaps. Can’t wait to see the Hubbs/Carlton/Darnell trio of redshirt freshmen. Hope to see Blake Williams earn a shot as well. Should have great depth at DT.
    LB: DeLuca is All-American material, and potentially FCS DPotY. Stumpf improved roughly 400% over the course of the year, and was a beast against the run. PGT stayed healthy and played well. Marlette, Jordheim, Plank, Board, Brinkman, Mercadel all should provide depth, continue to kick ass on special teams, and compete for starting roles in 2017.
    CB: Biggest question mark on the team, IMO. Jalen Allison and Dakota Reid got the starts against MSU. Allison looked solid as the nickel, and has great size. Davis/Bachmeier/Brooks? Will a true freshmen be ready (Torneden/Dixon)? Does Dempsey move back to CB? Should be a lot of competition in camp. Ridiculously young though.
    S: Dempsey and Grimsley are solid. Wimbush/Brown/Sikes/Cenescar, plus the incoming recruits, should provide competition to see the 2 deep.

    Front 7 might be the best since the 2012-2013 teams. Lots of depth on the line. Plenty of bodies in the secondary, just need to sort out who can play mistake free and tackle well. Dempsey will be the oldest contributing member of the back 4, and he is only a junior.

    Also have to look at who everyone else loses (Number of seniors on random early season 2 deep depth chart in parentheses, along with notable losses; no clue who may be eligible for medical redshirts)
    UNI (17): 2 TE’s, LG, 3 DE’s (including Ales), 2 backup LB’s, entire starting secondary (Hall, Kilfoy, Dorleant)
    SDSU (17): 4 WR’s, TE, 3 starting OL, 2 DE’s, 2 starting LB’s (including Lally), both starting CB’s
    ISUr (9): Roberson, Coprich, 2 DE’s, 2 starting LB, starting CB
    ISUb (9): WR Owens, starting RG, 2 starting LB, ¾ of secondary
    SIU (16): QB Iannotti + backup, 2 starting OL, 2 TE, WR, 3 DL, LB, both starting safeties
    WIU (12): RB Watson, starting RG, 2 TE’s, entire starting DL, starting LB
    YSU (12): starting LT, 3 WR’s, 4 DL (2 starters), starting LB and CB
    USD (11): 2 starting OL, 2 WR’s , 2 starting DT, 2 starting LB, 2 starting CB
    MSU (9): both starting OG’s, WR, DE, MLB, CB

    EWU: 15 total seniors on roster (couldn’t find a 2 deep), 7 are OL
    Iowa (16): Canzieri, 2 WR’s, 3 OL, 2 TE, 2 FB, 3 DE’s, 2 LB’s, FS
    JSU (21): Pope + backup, 2 WR, 3 OL, 2 starting DT, 2 starting LB +2 backups, starting DE, ¾ of secondary

    MVFC: Redbirds don’t lose many bodies, but no more Roberson and Coprich means they have to find some playmakers. UNI returns Bailey/Smith, along with Farley and McMakin who are damn good, but have to replace the entire secondary including 2 backups. Kilfoy and Hall are finally done, and Dorleant and Ales were very good. SDSU loses some OL and a fair amount on defense, but return Weineke and the QB’s. The Penguins might return the most in the league, with Wells and their RB’s coming back. Indiana State returns quite a bit on offense, but needs 5 new starters on D. SIU needs a QB and has a new coach, WIU needs a new DL and has a new coach, USD loses 6 starters on defense and has a new coach. MSU is incredibly young and basically played soph’s and freshmen this year.

    OOC: Couldn’t find depth chart for EWU, but Cupp and their QB return. They do lose 7 OL, not sure if they start or even backup. Iowa seems to lose more backups than starters, and will be a great test early in the season and one helluva tailgate. Threw in JSU just because; lose their #1 RB, #2 WR, and 8 defensive starters.

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    Haeg is huge loss. So is Kelly. Hope Lechler can be an anchor at LT. Plankers will start and hope another new starter can come in and fill void.

    Would love to see a solid 3rd WR come in and contribute. Bridges? Hawkins?

    Morlock should move to a Bonnet role. Thin at FB. Hes too dangerous and valuable and a good pass catcher. Bulk him up. Just not a ton of carries to go around. Frazier established himself as the lead back. BA should get more carries. Same with Dunn. Plus Purifoy could factor in.

    Defense will be loaded. I think they could challenge the 13' defense and end up even better. Another season of Tanguay and Menard? Wow. Schaetz big loss. Who will fill in, Steidl? Morgan? Maybe one of the redshirts will come in and play. Ambrosious played better late.

    LBs will be filthy. Did PGT play in title game? Wasnt greatest matchup for him though. Would still like to see some depth develop and maybe Board can get onto field more.

    Dont see Dempsey moving again. Hes very valuable at safety and think we'll be fine with Allison and Reid at CB. I expect Dom Davis to maybe play an Allison role. Always need a nickel player.

    Any true frosh that could play? Maybe one or two.

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    IMO, the loss of Ben LeCompte could be arguably the most important and wasn't mentioned once. That guy was a flat out stud and changed entire games. I know the one freshman punter got kicked off the team this year. Who is going to fill LeCompte's gigantic shoes?

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    Gallagher wasn't kicked off the team...

    That being said, NDSU has offered what seems to be an absolutely absurd punter

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2011BisonAlumni View Post
    IMO, the loss of Ben LeCompte could be arguably the most important and wasn't mentioned once. That guy was a flat out stud and changed entire games. I know the one freshman punter got kicked off the team this year. Who is going to fill LeCompte's gigantic shoes?
    Mentioned him in the first line of the post, then focused on who is returning. I agree, finding someone to punt will be one of the top priorities, along replacing CJ and Haeg. Those two completely shut down the player across from them, every snap. LeCompte was a game changer as well...

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    I doubt we see Dempsey move to CB but it is nice to have that versatility in the backfield. A couple of guys redshirting might be pretty good and we might need help at cb. Based on what I saw from game action, Dempsey looks like the fastest Bison on the field. I was impressed with the development of both safeties and I think they are going to make a bunch of plays next year. I won't be surprised if our int numbers shoot up some next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUBowler View Post
    Gallagher wasn't kicked off the team...

    That being said, NDSU has offered what seems to be an absolutely absurd punter

    Brandon Nickle
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    http://kohlskicking.com/profile/brandon-nickle/17246/
    keep an eye out for this guy. I don't think Nickle ends up here. Taylor Sheets.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_CZO9PeDEU&sns=em

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    I see the championship game in Jan 7th, 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUBowler View Post
    Gallagher wasn't kicked off the team...

    That being said, NDSU has offered what seems to be an absolutely absurd punter

    Brandon Nickle
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    5 plus second hang time is crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DM05 View Post
    Again, like every year, it seems like we lose a lot (Wentz, Haeg, Kelly, Vraa, Bonnett/Albers/Cyr, Schaetz, CJ and Champ, LeCompte), but we were actually pretty damn young this year and have a ton of returning experience. Can’t help but look ahead:

    Offense
    QB: Stick got a massive amount of experience this year, should be running the show for 3 more years. Will be fun to see him develop as a passer. Don’t know what we have behind him, but Davis was good enough to be in competition for the backup role in fall camp this year.
    RB: Frazier had a monster second half of the year, Anderson is a stud that should only benefit from a year of Jim Kramer and hopefully get’s more carries, Dunn showed some big play potential. Wonder if Morlock will get some consideration to move to more of a fullback role, or use him all over like Bonnet? Hope Purifoy can add depth if we need it.
    FB/TE: Wentz/Illies/Jensen/Ellefson will compete to fill the TE spots. Sargeant/Robbins at FB. Lot of experience and great blocking to replace, but we used these guys less in the passing game this past year.
    WR: RJ/Shepherd/Williams all back and should benefit from an offseason of work with Stick. Marquise Bridges will be in the mix. Hope Frandsen/Hawkins can find a way to contribute. Does incoming freshmen Engel get a look?
    OL: I think this will be the most fun group to watch through the spring and fall camps. Lechler, Johnson and Kuhnert (who I think is very underrated) return, as does Plankers who played a ton. Does Lechler move to LT, Plankers at RT, and put Ziemer in at RG? Does one of the younger guys (Conner, Volson, Bacon) step up into a starting role? Hope to see a lot of guys play and get experience. Lechler, Johnson, and Plankers will all be seniors, and we had some guys from last year’s recruiting class transfer already.

    Losing an NFL QB and LT, the program’s all-time leading WR, and several big contributors will hurt, but we have so much returning, and a lot of youth in the skill positions. Not often that a team can turn to an undefeated backup with 3 playoff wins. Would love to see the OL develop some depth, and for us to involve the TE’s more. Excited to see Bridges and Ellefson. Said this last year, but I hope Polasek improves as a situational play caller as well.

    Defense
    DE: Ambrosius and Menard , Jones/Butler/Tuszka got some great reps. Some good redshirts at DE as well (Tuszka/Karcz), should be good competition for snaps.
    DT: Tanguay still has two years left, which is absolutely insane. Steidl and Morgan both played a lot of snaps. Can’t wait to see the Hubbs/Carlton/Darnell trio of redshirt freshmen. Hope to see Blake Williams earn a shot as well. Should have great depth at DT.
    LB: DeLuca is All-American material, and potentially FCS DPotY. Stumpf improved roughly 400% over the course of the year, and was a beast against the run. PGT stayed healthy and played well. Marlette, Jordheim, Plank, Board, Brinkman, Mercadel all should provide depth, continue to kick ass on special teams, and compete for starting roles in 2017.
    CB: Biggest question mark on the team, IMO. Jalen Allison and Dakota Reid got the starts against MSU. Allison looked solid as the nickel, and has great size. Davis/Bachmeier/Brooks? Will a true freshmen be ready (Torneden/Dixon)? Does Dempsey move back to CB? Should be a lot of competition in camp. Ridiculously young though.
    S: Dempsey and Grimsley are solid. Wimbush/Brown/Sikes/Cenescar, plus the incoming recruits, should provide competition to see the 2 deep.

    Front 7 might be the best since the 2012-2013 teams. Lots of depth on the line. Plenty of bodies in the secondary, just need to sort out who can play mistake free and tackle well. Dempsey will be the oldest contributing member of the back 4, and he is only a junior.

    Also have to look at who everyone else loses (Number of seniors on random early season 2 deep depth chart in parentheses, along with notable losses; no clue who may be eligible for medical redshirts)
    UNI (17): 2 TE’s, LG, 3 DE’s (including Ales), 2 backup LB’s, entire starting secondary (Hall, Kilfoy, Dorleant)
    SDSU (17): 4 WR’s, TE, 3 starting OL, 2 DE’s, 2 starting LB’s (including Lally), both starting CB’s
    ISUr (9): Roberson, Coprich, 2 DE’s, 2 starting LB, starting CB
    ISUb (9): WR Owens, starting RG, 2 starting LB, ¾ of secondary
    SIU (16): QB Iannotti + backup, 2 starting OL, 2 TE, WR, 3 DL, LB, both starting safeties
    WIU (12): RB Watson, starting RG, 2 TE’s, entire starting DL, starting LB
    YSU (12): starting LT, 3 WR’s, 4 DL (2 starters), starting LB and CB
    USD (11): 2 starting OL, 2 WR’s , 2 starting DT, 2 starting LB, 2 starting CB
    MSU (9): both starting OG’s, WR, DE, MLB, CB

    EWU: 15 total seniors on roster (couldn’t find a 2 deep), 7 are OL
    Iowa (16): Canzieri, 2 WR’s, 3 OL, 2 TE, 2 FB, 3 DE’s, 2 LB’s, FS
    JSU (21): Pope + backup, 2 WR, 3 OL, 2 starting DT, 2 starting LB +2 backups, starting DE, ¾ of secondary

    MVFC: Redbirds don’t lose many bodies, but no more Roberson and Coprich means they have to find some playmakers. UNI returns Bailey/Smith, along with Farley and McMakin who are damn good, but have to replace the entire secondary including 2 backups. Kilfoy and Hall are finally done, and Dorleant and Ales were very good. SDSU loses some OL and a fair amount on defense, but return Weineke and the QB’s. The Penguins might return the most in the league, with Wells and their RB’s coming back. Indiana State returns quite a bit on offense, but needs 5 new starters on D. SIU needs a QB and has a new coach, WIU needs a new DL and has a new coach, USD loses 6 starters on defense and has a new coach. MSU is incredibly young and basically played soph’s and freshmen this year.

    OOC: Couldn’t find depth chart for EWU, but Cupp and their QB return. They do lose 7 OL, not sure if they start or even backup. Iowa seems to lose more backups than starters, and will be a great test early in the season and one helluva tailgate. Threw in JSU just because; lose their #1 RB, #2 WR, and 8 defensive starters.
    Thanks for the great post and all the research you did. I'll be referring to this before next season !

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