9/3/16 ?

[NoDak]

Oh I agree... different strategies on team building ... JSU seems to think they are always being compared to Alabama ... I don't think the Bizon have the same problem with being compared local to the Goofers.

And that is critical. It is not that the "transfer strategy" is necessarily bad. Players that are borderline are more likely to choose NDSU over, let's say, Minnesota. If you are a high school stand out and are offered an opportunity to play for Alabama or Auburn or LSU or Florida, etc. who WOULDN'T do that? If that same player played in Minnesota NDSU would get serious consideration, I believe.

I think the fallacy that JSU falls into is to think that ANY player with FBS on their resume, especially SEC, is inherently superior to anyone that would be recruited by an FCS school. That is because their experience has likely been that players that go to the FCS and not the FBS are largely inferior players. It is likely that, in that part of the country, any player that doesn't even try to go to the FBS school is probably pretty bad. That isn't the case but, in large part, because there are not great FBS programs in this part of the country, at least nothing that is going to compare to what they can find in the SEC.

[56BISON73]

I was talking to a JSU fan after the game and he was asking how many transfers NDSU had and where they were from. I told him NDSU doesn't get many transfers (Frazier was the only one I could think of at the time). He seemed mystified. Then I explained that NDSU is a marquee program up here. If recruited by a "local" FBS school it would be Minnesota or Iowa or something like that, not exactly a marquee place. In that case, winning national championships with NDSU sounds pretty good. In Alabama the same recruit might get an opportunity to "walk-on" at Alabama, Auburn, LSU, etc. Many would take their chances and, if things don't work out, can transfer to FCS school, like JSU. In short, they are probably the same athletes, NDSU just gets them as Freshman, JSU gets them as transfers. Given my choice, I like getting them as freshmen. Then they learn to play together for several years instead of assembling guys for 1-2 years like with transfers.

Its just a different business model based on location and who is your recruiting competition. They do what they do because thats what they have to to be successful. They cant get kids to come there right out of HS because they want to follow the dream. They get lost in the shuffle so the leave for playing time. Some schools rely on a host of jucos every 2 years. Our location and competition is totally different.

[NoDak]

Its just a different business model based on location and who is your recruiting competition. They do what they do because thats what they have to to be successful. They cant get kids to come there right out of HS because they want to follow the dream. They get lost in the shuffle so the leave for playing time. Some schools rely on a host of jucos every 2 years. Our location and competition is totally different.

That is exactly what I was trying to say, but you did it far more succinctly.

[El_Chapo]

And that is critical. It is not that the "transfer strategy" is necessarily bad. Players that are borderline are more likely to choose NDSU over, let's say, Minnesota. If you are a high school stand out and are offered an opportunity to play for Alabama or Auburn or LSU or Florida, etc. who WOULDN'T do that? haIf tt same player played in Minnesota NDSU would get serious consideration, I believe.

I think the fallacy that JSU falls into is to think that ANY player with FBS on their resume, especially SEC, is inherently superior to anyone that would be recruited by an FCS school. That is because their experience has likely been that players that go to the FCS and not the FBS are largely inferior players. It is likely that, in that part of the country, any player that doesn't even try to go to the FBS school is probably pretty bad. That isn't the case but, in large part, because there are not great FBS programs in this part of the country, at least nothing that is going to compare to what they can find in the SEC.

if you get a minnesota offer you take it over NDSU every time, a PWO to Gophers hits at about a 80% rate. Face Facts, as long as NDSU stays fcs the "image" will always hurt us.

[VirginiaBison]

How does one go about "recruiting" FBS transfers? Do the kids contact JSU or does JSU call kids that are cut by FBS teams and make them an offer? Just wondering....

[westnodak93bison]

I thought there was gonna be an announcement?

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[StL Bison Fan]

I thought there was gonna be an announcement?

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You will get a text

[tjbison]

I thought there was gonna be an announcement?

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still another day...or week.....or month....or...shit