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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammersmith View Post
    Just make sure you're thinking everything through when considering this.

    If WSU's goal is FBS, then there is no reason at all for the MVFC to take them. WSU is one of the strongest members of the MVC. Why would the MVC members of the MVFC want to help WSU leave the MVC?

    If WSU really does change its goal from FBS to FCS, it brings some other problems. Once you go to 11, you might as well go to 12 and split into divisions. Who's the most likely #12? UND. Adding UND would likely placate the Summit members of the MVFC. But what are the repercussions? How are you going to split the divisions? There's only one logical way. The four Dakota schools and UNI have to make up 5/6ths of one of the divisions. The final member of that division would likely be WSU. If WSU turns out to be as good as some of you think, look at the poor balance between the two divisions.

    West
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    SDSU
    UNI
    WSU
    UND
    USD

    East
    ISUr
    YSU
    SIU
    WIU
    ISUb
    MSU

    That is a massive disparity. Is that really what we want?
    But.. The Missouri Valley wants to keep them for basketball too. One of the best teams. For that reason I could see all the teams in the MVFC wanting them to join football. Don't want to see them pouched
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammersmith View Post
    Money. The eastern schools don't like to pay to travel west. By breaking into divisions, you maximize bus trips as opposed to flights. It's already partially in place. A couple schools only agreed to vote for USD in exchange for a guarantee to never have to travel to the Dakotas twice in a single season.
    Just curious are there any FB conferences that have divisions and no championship game?

    quite a bit of speculation in that post iyam. The previous post, not this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammersmith View Post

    West
    NDSU
    SDSU
    UNI
    WSU
    UND
    USD

    East
    ISUr
    YSU
    SIU
    WIU
    ISUb
    MSU

    That is a massive disparity. Is that really what we want?
    Well on our side we have UNlost2stonybrookD. Does that level of suck balance out with ISUb + MSU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bison bison View Post
    I've got no problem with it. Just have a departure fee of $5 million less $500,000 each year they remain in the league.
    At least.........But absolutely.

    Old Dominion skated away from the CAA for a mere $250,000.
    And their intention were announced after only 3 seasons in that FCS conference. They played a 4th season before making the jump.

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    How does the Big Sky operate their schedule. "Divisions" without official divisions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammersmith View Post
    Just make sure you're thinking everything through when considering this.

    If WSU's goal is FBS, then there is no reason at all for the MVFC to take them. WSU is one of the strongest members of the MVC. Why would the MVC members of the MVFC want to help WSU leave the MVC?

    If WSU really does change its goal from FBS to FCS, it brings some other problems. Once you go to 11, you might as well go to 12 and split into divisions. Who's the most likely #12? UND. Adding UND would likely placate the Summit members of the MVFC. But what are the repercussions? How are you going to split the divisions? There's only one logical way. The four Dakota schools and UNI have to make up 5/6ths of one of the divisions. The final member of that division would likely be WSU. If WSU turns out to be as good as some of you think, look at the poor balance between the two divisions.

    West
    NDSU
    SDSU
    UNI
    WSU
    UND
    USD

    East
    ISUr
    YSU
    SIU
    WIU
    ISUb
    MSU

    That is a massive disparity. Is that really what we want?
    Switch UNI and WIU......all the Summit teams in one division with newby Wichita would balance out the divisions

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    In 5 years we will be on the same level as the group of 5
    Probably not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twentysix View Post
    Probably not.
    Im thinking maybe even sooner but time will tell. It's inevitable. Power 5 has all the money and TV deals. The group of 5 doesn't. Just look to the TV contracts recently negotiated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    Im thinking maybe even sooner but time will tell. It's inevitable. Power 5 has all the money and TV deals. The group of 5 doesn't. Just look to the TV contracts recently negotiated.
    hasn't this always been the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by natstar1 View Post
    hasn't this always been the case?
    Power 5 have always gotten a ton of money but G5 schools got some solid deals too. Starting to change. Conference USAs old TV deal was worth 15.4 million. Now it's 2.8 million . Declining viewership due to cord cutting may have something to do with this. Conferences like the MAC are lucky they got their deal early and are basically bending over to ESPN for hideous Wednesday football games. The Mountain West conference TV deal is based on Boise State who gets most of the games. If they switch conferences...

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