NDSU vs Ducks

[QB11SD]

These types just can't help themselves......what will be even more enjoyable is when NDSU still beats Oregon despite the loss of our All American linebacker. They got PAC 12 speed, we got Midwest quickness and toughness. Bison stomp the cute little duckies in their shiny new uniforms. So before the game do Oregon players do a runway show to model their latest football uniform fashion?

Midwest quickness and toughness? Pac-12 speed? There is no inherent toughness or quickness or speed depending on where you’re from. You’re either fast, quick and tough or you’re not. Being from the Midwest doesn’t make you inherently tougher than Oregon. This is so dumb. We keep being told how there isn’t much talent separation. Obviously we disagree.
Let’s make a bet. You and me $200 straight up loser donates the money to Special Olympics Oregon or North Dakota.


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[QB11SD]

NDSU is better than every G5 team but POSSIBLY 2.

Memphis, Houston, Cincy, UCF, Boise State, App State are all better than NDSU


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[QB11SD]

Using the Sagarin ratings, NDSU was rated higher than 7 of Oregon's opponents last season and would be the 3rd-highest ranking in each division of the Pac-12.

There is a reason that only Sagarin attempts to blend FCS into their analytics models. It’s very difficult because of the available samples are so small which makes the results very spotty. Maybe that’s the case and it becomes evident in September but if it was so easy to say why doesn’t FEI or SP+ have FCS included in their models?


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[BisonAccountant44]

Memphis, Houston, Cincy, UCF, Boise State, App State are all better than NDSU


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I'd take that bet.

[ndsubison1]

Memphis, Houston, Cincy, UCF, Boise State, App State are all better than NDSU


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Houston was mediocre last year.

[WeAreThePride]

Memphis, Houston, Cincy, UCF, Boise State, App State are all better than NDSU


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No. NDSU would beat Memphis, Houston, Cincy, and App State. 50/50 against UCF and Boise.

[reformedUNDfan]

There is a reason that only Sagarin attempts to blend FCS into their analytics models. It’s very difficult because of the available samples are so small which makes the results very spotty. Maybe that’s the case and it becomes evident in September but if it was so easy to say why doesn’t FEI or SP+ have FCS included in their models?


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SP+ is working on integrating FCS teams from what I understand.

Its not the the samples are small, FCS is better connected to the bulk of FBS than any single conference (100+ games vs 30-40), its that Sagarin is basically just a linear regression so its pretty easy, while other metrics are more complicated.

Massey also includes FCS teams fwiw.

[reformedUNDfan]

Memphis, Houston, Cincy, UCF, Boise State, App State are all better than NDSU


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These are NDSU's peers, regional high mid majors. I would include Fresno State and Utah State as well.

[Bisonator98]

Memphis, Houston, Cincy, UCF, Boise State, App State are all better than NDSU


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[Bison bison]

Memphis, Houston, Cincy, UCF, Boise State, App State are all better than NDSU


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Possibly. I'd love play home and homes with em to find out.