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    NDSU's tv ratings mean absolutely nothing to me. Why do they matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professorbum View Post
    Troy had 5 games on national television. Wyoming had 7 games on national television. NDSU had 3 games nationally televised (all playoff games). So, I guess Wyoming is the answer to your question.
    Wyoming can get some really good numbers if they get to the MW championship game, a bowl game, and get some games with power 5 schools. But most of the games on ESPN have pretty weak rating. They don't even list CBS Sports Network because it's on the bottom of the pecking order. The best Wyoming team in 2016 had 5.25 million but we are pretty routinely in the 2-4 million range. And our statewide NBC has some pretty crazy ratings and covers a huge area with 100% availability and when you throw in the lakes, eastern montana, northern south dakota, and now expanded kook tv.. its a shit ton of people

    http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/coll...ll-tv-ratings/

    Troy 2018 (1.9 million total)
    (1.698M) Troy-Buffalo Mobile 12/22, 7:00p ESPN
    n.a. n.a. GA ST-Troy SUN 10/4, 7:30p ESPNU
    (241K) BOISE-Troy

    TROY 2017 (2.69 million total)
    (1.327M) TroyN. Texas New Orleans Dec. 16, 1:00 PM ESPN
    (225K) TroyArk. State. Sun Belt Dec. 2, 7:30 PM ESPN2
    (130K) Idaho Troy Sun Belt Nov, 2, 9:30 PM ESPNU
    (856K) Troy LSU Sun Belt SEC Sept. 30, 7:00 PM ESPNU
    194K Troy Boise St. Sun Belt MWC Sept. 2, 3:30 PM ESPNU

    Wyoming
    2018
    (128K) WYO-FRES ST MWC 10/13, 10:30p ESPNU
    (243K) WYO-MIZ MWC, SEC 9/8, 7:00p ESPNU
    (464K) WYO-NM MWC 8/25, 10:00p ESPN2

    2017
    (82K) New Mexico Wyoming MWC Oct. 28, 7:30 PM ESPNU
    (414K) Wyoming Boise St. MWC Oct. 21, 10:30 PM ESPN2
    (455K) Hawaii Wyoming MWC Sept. 23, 10:40 PM ESPN2
    (159K) Wyoming Air Force MWC Nov. 11, 10:30 PM ESPNU

    2016
    total viewers not counting bowl game, 2,910,000
    including bowl game 5.25

    2.380M BYU Wyoming Poinsettia Bowl 9:16 PM ESPN
    713K SDSU Wyoming MWC Champ. 7:43 PM ESPN
    333K Wyoming New Mexico MWC 10:22 PM ESPN2
    325K Utah St. Wyoming MWC 10:47 PM ESPN2
    282K Wyoming Nevada MWC 10:46 PM ESPN2
    131K Wyoming Colorado St. MWC 10:20 PM ESPNU
    1.126M Wyoming Nebraska MWC Big Ten 12:00 PM ESPN2

    NDSU
    2012 Season (2.1 million total)
    ESPN2: NDSU vs SHSU, 1.104 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs GSU, 974k

    2013 Season (4.3 million total, 2.5 million without game day)
    ESPN: College Gameday, 1.828 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs Towson 1.2 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs UNH 813k
    FS1: NDSU vs K-State 585k

    2014 Season (5.79 million total, 3.99 million without game day)
    ESPN: College Gameday, 1.3, 1.827 million
    ESPN: NDSU vs CCU, 1.447 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs ISUR, 1.444 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs SHSU, 790k
    FS1: NDSU vs Iowa St, .2 407k

    2015 Season (4.6 million total)
    ESPN: NDSU vs UNI, 1.644 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs JSU 1.35 million
    ESPN: NDSU vs Montana, 981k
    ESPN2: NDSU vs Richmond, 751k

    2016 Season (4.6 million total)
    ESPN: NDSU vs SDSU, 1.984 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs JMU, 1.065 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs Iowa 968k
    ESPN: NDSU vs Charleston Southern 797k

    2017 Season (2.95 million total)
    ESPN2: NDSU vs JMU 1.515 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs Wofford, 849k
    ESPN2: NDSU vs SHSU 604k

    2018 Season (3.64 million total)
    ESPN: NDSU vs Colgate 1.806 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs EWU 1.004 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs SDSU, 846k
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    Quote Originally Posted by MNLonghorn10 View Post
    You can toss me all of the "who cares about the toilet paper bowl in hoople north Dakota
    Hey don't be cutting on Hoople. I have a wife that will hunt you down and make you wish you hadn't and I can attest you don't want her mad at ya!!!

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    My issue with the move up right now is what conference would we be a part of. There are only 4 that make any sort of sense (MAC, MWC, Big 10 and Big 12) and two of those aren't going to happen. With the MAC and the MWC they don't make too much sense either for transportation alone. Every one of those road games would be plane trips and probably for every single sport as I would assume we would try to move the entire athletic department into those leagues if possible.

    I know UND had plenty of other issues when they had to cut sports back a few years ago, but I think the biggest issue was when they joined the Big Sky. Every road game was a plane trip. Those add up big time when you are sending your teams to Arizona and the West Coast many times throughout the year. It would be interesting to see how successful (both athletically and financially) NDSU would have been if we would have been allowed into the Big Sky when we jumped up to D1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevdock View Post
    My issue with the move up right now is what conference would we be a part of. There are only 4 that make any sort of sense (MAC, MWC, Big 10 and Big 12) and two of those aren't going to happen. With the MAC and the MWC they don't make too much sense either for transportation alone. Every one of those road games would be plane trips and probably for every single sport as I would assume we would try to move the entire athletic department into those leagues if possible.

    I know UND had plenty of other issues when they had to cut sports back a few years ago, but I think the biggest issue was when they joined the Big Sky. Every road game was a plane trip. Those add up big time when you are sending your teams to Arizona and the West Coast many times throughout the year. It would be interesting to see how successful (both athletically and financially) NDSU would have been if we would have been allowed into the Big Sky when we jumped up to D1.
    There is no shortage in barriers (including additional athletic department scholarships) to moving up but the path that makes the most sense is a football only agreement (leaving the other Olympic sports in the Summit) or creating a new FBS conference (which can't be done right now per the NCAA). If NDSU could find a football only agreement the additional cost to the department wouldn't be in travel but instead scholarships and increased expenses in recruiting, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    Wyoming can get some really good numbers if they get to the MW championship game, a bowl game, and get some games with power 5 schools. But most of the games on ESPN have pretty weak rating. They don't even list CBS Sports Network because it's on the bottom of the pecking order. The best Wyoming team in 2016 had 5.25 million but we are pretty routinely in the 2-4 million range. And our statewide NBC has some pretty crazy ratings and covers a huge area with 100% availability and when you throw in the lakes, eastern montana, northern south dakota, and now expanded kook tv.. its a shit ton of people

    http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/coll...ll-tv-ratings/

    Troy 2018 (1.9 million total)
    (1.698M) Troy-Buffalo Mobile 12/22, 7:00p ESPN
    n.a. n.a. GA ST-Troy SUN 10/4, 7:30p ESPNU
    (241K) BOISE-Troy

    TROY 2017 (2.69 million total)
    (1.327M) TroyN. Texas New Orleans Dec. 16, 1:00 PM ESPN
    (225K) TroyArk. State. Sun Belt Dec. 2, 7:30 PM ESPN2
    (130K) Idaho Troy Sun Belt Nov, 2, 9:30 PM ESPNU
    (856K) Troy LSU Sun Belt SEC Sept. 30, 7:00 PM ESPNU
    194K Troy Boise St. Sun Belt MWC Sept. 2, 3:30 PM ESPNU

    Wyoming
    2018
    (128K) WYO-FRES ST MWC 10/13, 10:30p ESPNU
    (243K) WYO-MIZ MWC, SEC 9/8, 7:00p ESPNU
    (464K) WYO-NM MWC 8/25, 10:00p ESPN2

    2017
    (82K) New Mexico Wyoming MWC Oct. 28, 7:30 PM ESPNU
    (414K) Wyoming Boise St. MWC Oct. 21, 10:30 PM ESPN2
    (455K) Hawaii Wyoming MWC Sept. 23, 10:40 PM ESPN2
    (159K) Wyoming Air Force MWC Nov. 11, 10:30 PM ESPNU

    2016
    total viewers not counting bowl game, 2,910,000
    including bowl game 5.25

    2.380M BYU Wyoming Poinsettia Bowl 9:16 PM ESPN
    713K SDSU Wyoming MWC Champ. 7:43 PM ESPN
    333K Wyoming New Mexico MWC 10:22 PM ESPN2
    325K Utah St. Wyoming MWC 10:47 PM ESPN2
    282K Wyoming Nevada MWC 10:46 PM ESPN2
    131K Wyoming Colorado St. MWC 10:20 PM ESPNU
    1.126M Wyoming Nebraska MWC Big Ten 12:00 PM ESPN2

    NDSU
    2012 Season (2.1 million total)
    ESPN2: NDSU vs SHSU, 1.104 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs GSU, 974k

    2013 Season (4.3 million total, 2.5 million without game day)
    ESPN: College Gameday, 1.828 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs Towson 1.2 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs UNH 813k
    FS1: NDSU vs K-State 585k

    2014 Season (5.79 million total, 3.99 million without game day)
    ESPN: College Gameday, 1.3, 1.827 million
    ESPN: NDSU vs CCU, 1.447 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs ISUR, 1.444 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs SHSU, 790k
    FS1: NDSU vs Iowa St, .2 407k

    2015 Season (4.6 million total)
    ESPN: NDSU vs UNI, 1.644 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs JSU 1.35 million
    ESPN: NDSU vs Montana, 981k
    ESPN2: NDSU vs Richmond, 751k

    2016 Season (4.6 million total)
    ESPN: NDSU vs SDSU, 1.984 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs JMU, 1.065 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs Iowa 968k
    ESPN: NDSU vs Charleston Southern 797k

    2017 Season (2.95 million total)
    ESPN2: NDSU vs JMU 1.515 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs Wofford, 849k
    ESPN2: NDSU vs SHSU 604k

    2018 Season (3.64 million total)
    ESPN: NDSU vs Colgate 1.806 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs EWU 1.004 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs SDSU, 846k
    Dang. You may have won this one, Herdbot, with all your data and facts. But I'm telling ya, we need to be thinking about the next level. And we need to be ahead of the curve, not wait for things to unfold in 4-5 years with new tv deals and such. What ever happens to the G5, we may not get an opportunity to participate when that time comes because all doors may be closed and locked at that point. Didn't anyone see the movie 2012? Or read the Noah account in Genesis? Or see videos of the last helicopters out of Saigon? We need to get on board. Pronto.
    I don't care what Jim says. That is not the real Ben Franklin. I'm 99% certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevdock View Post
    My issue with the move up right now is what conference would we be a part of. There are only 4 that make any sort of sense (MAC, MWC, Big 10 and Big 12) and two of those aren't going to happen. With the MAC and the MWC they don't make too much sense either for transportation alone. Every one of those road games would be plane trips and probably for every single sport as I would assume we would try to move the entire athletic department into those leagues if possible.

    I know UND had plenty of other issues when they had to cut sports back a few years ago, but I think the biggest issue was when they joined the Big Sky. Every road game was a plane trip. Those add up big time when you are sending your teams to Arizona and the West Coast many times throughout the year. It would be interesting to see how successful (both athletically and financially) NDSU would have been if we would have been allowed into the Big Sky when we jumped up to D1.
    You can also start a new FBS football conference if enough existing FBS schools join. You could probably pull in a 2-3 independents in such a conference and maybe recruit some others. Sure, it's a long shot. But we should be planning how to traverse one or more paths to FBS than simply eyeballing the paths, throwing up our hands, and saying they're all too difficult to navigate. I honestly believe that if we publicly let it be known that we wanted an FBS invite, there'd be a groundswell of support from sports commentators and journalists and from football fans who believe NDSU should be given a shot at that level, given our success heretofore. There'd be pressure for one conference or another to step up and give us the opportunity to compete.
    I don't care what Jim says. That is not the real Ben Franklin. I'm 99% certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    Wyoming can get some really good numbers if they get to the MW championship game, a bowl game, and get some games with power 5 schools. But most of the games on ESPN have pretty weak rating. They don't even list CBS Sports Network because it's on the bottom of the pecking order. The best Wyoming team in 2016 had 5.25 million but we are pretty routinely in the 2-4 million range. And our statewide NBC has some pretty crazy ratings and covers a huge area with 100% availability and when you throw in the lakes, eastern montana, northern south dakota, and now expanded kook tv.. its a shit ton of people

    http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/coll...ll-tv-ratings/

    Troy 2018 (1.9 million total)
    (1.698M) Troy-Buffalo Mobile 12/22, 7:00p ESPN
    n.a. n.a. GA ST-Troy SUN 10/4, 7:30p ESPNU
    (241K) BOISE-Troy

    TROY 2017 (2.69 million total)
    (1.327M) TroyN. Texas New Orleans Dec. 16, 1:00 PM ESPN
    (225K) TroyArk. State. Sun Belt Dec. 2, 7:30 PM ESPN2
    (130K) Idaho Troy Sun Belt Nov, 2, 9:30 PM ESPNU
    (856K) Troy LSU Sun Belt SEC Sept. 30, 7:00 PM ESPNU
    194K Troy Boise St. Sun Belt MWC Sept. 2, 3:30 PM ESPNU

    Wyoming
    2018
    (128K) WYO-FRES ST MWC 10/13, 10:30p ESPNU
    (243K) WYO-MIZ MWC, SEC 9/8, 7:00p ESPNU
    (464K) WYO-NM MWC 8/25, 10:00p ESPN2

    2017
    (82K) New Mexico Wyoming MWC Oct. 28, 7:30 PM ESPNU
    (414K) Wyoming Boise St. MWC Oct. 21, 10:30 PM ESPN2
    (455K) Hawaii Wyoming MWC Sept. 23, 10:40 PM ESPN2
    (159K) Wyoming Air Force MWC Nov. 11, 10:30 PM ESPNU

    2016
    total viewers not counting bowl game, 2,910,000
    including bowl game 5.25

    2.380M BYU Wyoming Poinsettia Bowl 9:16 PM ESPN
    713K SDSU Wyoming MWC Champ. 7:43 PM ESPN
    333K Wyoming New Mexico MWC 10:22 PM ESPN2
    325K Utah St. Wyoming MWC 10:47 PM ESPN2
    282K Wyoming Nevada MWC 10:46 PM ESPN2
    131K Wyoming Colorado St. MWC 10:20 PM ESPNU
    1.126M Wyoming Nebraska MWC Big Ten 12:00 PM ESPN2

    NDSU
    2012 Season (2.1 million total)
    ESPN2: NDSU vs SHSU, 1.104 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs GSU, 974k

    2013 Season (4.3 million total, 2.5 million without game day)
    ESPN: College Gameday, 1.828 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs Towson 1.2 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs UNH 813k
    FS1: NDSU vs K-State 585k

    2014 Season (5.79 million total, 3.99 million without game day)
    ESPN: College Gameday, 1.3, 1.827 million
    ESPN: NDSU vs CCU, 1.447 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs ISUR, 1.444 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs SHSU, 790k
    FS1: NDSU vs Iowa St, .2 407k

    2015 Season (4.6 million total)
    ESPN: NDSU vs UNI, 1.644 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs JSU 1.35 million
    ESPN: NDSU vs Montana, 981k
    ESPN2: NDSU vs Richmond, 751k

    2016 Season (4.6 million total)
    ESPN: NDSU vs SDSU, 1.984 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs JMU, 1.065 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs Iowa 968k
    ESPN: NDSU vs Charleston Southern 797k

    2017 Season (2.95 million total)
    ESPN2: NDSU vs JMU 1.515 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs Wofford, 849k
    ESPN2: NDSU vs SHSU 604k

    2018 Season (3.64 million total)
    ESPN: NDSU vs Colgate 1.806 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs EWU 1.004 million
    ESPN2: NDSU vs SDSU, 846k
    Any numbers on those who viewed the regular season games locally and on ESPN+?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gizmo View Post
    NDSU's tv ratings mean absolutely nothing to me. Why do they matter?
    Because higher viewership = higher exposure and brand awareness. Higher exposure means better quality recruits and can even help with donations and enrollment numbers.

    Statewide ratings are huge. There is a reason KVLY paid us 1.2 million dollars to air our games. They wouldnt do it if nobody watched

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevdock View Post
    My issue with the move up right now is what conference would we be a part of. There are only 4 that make any sort of sense (MAC, MWC, Big 10 and Big 12) and two of those aren't going to happen. With the MAC and the MWC they don't make too much sense either for transportation alone. Every one of those road games would be plane trips and probably for every single sport as I would assume we would try to move the entire athletic department into those leagues if possible.

    I know UND had plenty of other issues when they had to cut sports back a few years ago, but I think the biggest issue was when they joined the Big Sky. Every road game was a plane trip. Those add up big time when you are sending your teams to Arizona and the West Coast many times throughout the year. It would be interesting to see how successful (both athletically and financially) NDSU would have been if we would have been allowed into the Big Sky when we jumped up to D1.
    My preference is the MAC with UNI and ISUr

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