In reply to STLRedbird on the ISU board.

[Hail bison]

I get the phrase and its origins on snl. And if it was an attempt at humor I apologize but the contex and delivery was all wrong. As well unfortunately other comments after yours were just as poorly written. Only trying to say that we can be better as a fan base.

Any chance you were born in 1952? Just curious

[NDSUSR]

I get the phrase and its origins on snl. And if it was an attempt at humor I apologize but the contex and delivery was all wrong. As well unfortunately other comments after yours were just as poorly written. Only trying to say that we can be better as a fan base.

Maybe fans like you are the problem. You know the type. The ones that always stick their noses in where they dont belong. Then offer up their two cents regarding what everyone else needs to do to better themseves and the entire forum. The kind of Decemberist who only joins a forum after the season is over and proceeds to post his criticisms after 2 posts. You know the type... assholes.


We as a fanbase have done nicely without you.

[56BISON73]

Here are my thoughts.

I've never been a fan of building a team around transfers or Jucos. You only get 1 to 3 years out of them and the first year is typically used to learn the system. Illinois State is in a tremendous part of the country for transfers with a ton of FBS schools. They are everything we are not just based on Geography and population alone. Heck look at the impact their QB made. Then again look at the impact Wentz made on the game and he's the polar opposite. There's more than one way to skin a cat I guess.

With that being said I think its ok to find the occasional guy who is a perfect fit. Heck King Frazier is a perfect example. Previously recruited by Klieman. Three years of eligibility. Contributed right away and will probably start for the next 2 years. That's what I call a home run. Pat Paschal was similar with 3 years. I've always been a fan of Juco dlineman. Jeremy Gordon was huge for us in 2012 when injuries started to mount up at the DE position. Guys like Chad Willson and Andre Martin played a big part in the success of our team. Andre allowed Dudzik to move to safety which benefitted the team long term. Bryan Shepherd was awesome. And we can't forget Jeremy Kelly. What a crazy deal. Went to one of the armed forces schools. (I think it was Army) Transferred to Bemidji State. Comes to NDSU and becomes an impact starter on the online. These are perfect transfers.

I think since we have a bigger name we could go after a few we maybe wouldn't have had a chance on in the past.

If you build a team on transfers you lose your culture and tradition and your identity changes. All you are doing is filling holes and you arent building for the future.

[NDSUSR]

Any chance you were born in 1952? Just curious

That could be. Its pretty fishy for sure.

[BlueBisonRock]

Maybe fans like you are the problem. You know the type. The ones that always stick their noses in where they dont belong. Then offer up their two cents regarding what everyone else needs to do to better themseves and the entire forum. The kind of Decemberist who only joins a forum after the season is over and proceeds to post his criticisms after 2 posts. You know the type... assholes.


We as a fanbase have done nicely without you.

Pucker up Buttercup. You are not exactly providing a stellar example with your flame of a response.

Looks like its going to be a long off season.

[56BISON73]

Maybe fans like you are the problem. You know the type. The ones that always stick their noses in where they dont belong. Then offer up their two cents regarding what everyone else needs to do to better themseves and the entire forum. The kind of Decemberist who only joins a forum after the season is over and proceeds to post his criticisms after 2 posts. You know the type... assholes.


We as a fanbase have done nicely without you.

The guy has posted twice under this moniker. Since you say you know who this poster is why dont you let everyone in on your secret?

[ndsubison1]

Read their thread about the transfers they are getting. It's unreal. Great location. They are aggressive. Different mindset I guess. If love to get into the transfer market!!!! Yes please!!!!

Its the only way teams can "try" to keep up with us

[ndsubison1]

I'm confused, are you saying you like their FBS transfer approach? Thought it was strange their board is completely fixated on transfers and ignores high school recruiting entirely.

Burgundy loves transfers

[Mr. Burgundy]

I do love transfers. I push for a couple every year. Half of the studs we go against are transfers. The studs for ISI....transfers. UNI just signed 3 in a week. Studs. Don't put words in my mouth and say I want a bunch...I don't. I'd take a couple. They can buy into a culture just like anyone else. People want a Juco kid all the time....but don't want a impact player that is stuck on a FBS chart? Makes NO sense at all. 3rd stringers s high majors may want to play someday. It's different than taking a problem child. It makes sense in football as they don't sit out a season. All coaches are connected. They make calls. They do their homework.

[Herd12]

I'm with Burgundy on this. 19 FBS transfers? No thanks. But 1, 2 or 3 transfers every offseason? Hells yes. Forget not what Andre Martin, Jeremy Kelly, Bryan Shepherd and King Frazier have done for the program.