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    Quote Originally Posted by aces1180 View Post
    If it matters, Phil agreed with the call...
    Phil's wrong then, too. This is pretty straight forward stuff. It's been around for a fairly long time now. It's clear, no matter who's building you're in. You should go for it there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scbison91 View Post
    because it is a pretty simpel decision on the road..

    We'll agree to disagree. You have to take into account game flow and the lack of success we had even getting to the redzone. We should have felt at that time (which ultimately came to fruition) that that would be our only shot inside the 5.
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    We'll agree to disagree. You have to take into account game flow and the lack of success we had even getting to the redzone. We should have felt at that time (which ultimately came to fruition) that that would be our only shot inside the 5.
    and they would have gone for it and not got it and most of you would have still bitched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    Phil's wrong then, too. This is pretty straight forward stuff. It's been around for a fairly long time now. It's clear, no matter who's building you're in. You should go for it there.
    If NDSU doesn't give up the long return on the kick-off, everything is back on their side...Not a bad call by Klieman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scbison91 View Post
    and they would have gone for it and not got it and most of you would have still bitched.
    Doubt it, these people are pretty consistent in regards to their decision making in that situation. Especially audit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scbison91 View Post
    and they would have gone for it and not got it and most of you would have still bitched.
    Or gotten a safety on defense. OR completely turned the game around by scoring a TD. Offense lost confidence too knowing they couldn't punch it in being so close. Ifs and buts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scbison91 View Post
    because it is a pretty simpel decision on the road..
    wrong. going for it averages 5.8 points in the long term. kicking it averages 2.8 long term. like audit said its been around for a while and

    it doesnt matter home vs road. you could argue with game flow momentum all of that stuff that kicking the field goal helps the defense. its a no brainer to go for it and to be honest it shouldnt even be considered to kick it with the defense the bison has

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUstudent View Post
    Doubt it, these people are pretty consistent in regards to their decision making in that situation. Especially audit.
    natstar1 has been all over it this season and TILIS knows the math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    Phil's wrong then, too. This is pretty straight forward stuff. It's been around for a fairly long time now. It's clear, no matter who's building you're in. You should go for it there.
    If it is the goal line situation I think we're talking about, would it have changed much? A touchdown vs a field goal right? We still were getting out played and they scored again anyways.

    I agree with more aggression but I think Klieman was a tad intimidated to be honest. Oh well, we would play uni at home in the playoffs and in my opinion that will change decisions made

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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonaudit View Post
    natstar1 has been all over it this season and TILIS knows the math.
    That is my biggest coaching pet peeve at all levels of football. IMO, 4th and 5 or less is nearly an automatic 'go for it' at the midfield and on when you have a strong defense and capable offense.
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