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    I wonder what the water cooler talk(didn't have Bisonville) was during the 1990 season after barely beating Morningside. I can't remember. Probably hung over.

    Statistics Summary for 1990


    Date Opponent Score Attend Site Notes
    9/1/1990 INDIANA (PA) W 28-18 11778 Fargo, ND
    * 9/15/1990 at Minn. St. Mankato W 34-20 6000 Mankato, MN
    * 9/22/1990 SOUTH DAKOTA STATE W 40-28 12596 Fargo, ND
    * 9/29/1990 at South Dakota W 42-14 3700 Vermillion, SD
    * 10/6/1990 MORNINGSIDE W 19-12 12448 Fargo, ND
    * 10/13/1990 at Northern Colorado W 34-17 8378 Greeley, CO
    * 10/20/1990 ST. CLOUD STATE W 62-3 10109 Fargo, ND
    * 10/27/1990 at Augustana (SD) W 43-14 2800 Sioux Falls, SD
    * 11/3/1990 at Nebraska Omaha W 44-7 8320 Omaha, NE
    * 11/10/1990 at North Dakota W 42-14 12400 Grand Forks, ND
    p 11/17/1990 NORTHERN COLORADO W 17-7 7103 Fargo, ND
    p 11/24/1990 CAL POLY W 47-0 8253 Fargo, ND
    p 12/3/1990 PITTSBURG STATE W 39-29 9086 Fargo, ND
    p 12/10/1990 vs Indiana (PA) W 51-11 10080 Florence, AL

    Overall: 14-0
    Conference: 9-0
    Home: 7-0
    Away: 6-0
    Neutral: 1-0
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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS4127 View Post
    bb11: Where did you get the stats from last year. Did you have to put them together, or did you find them somewhere.

    Another thing to keep in mind is that we played KSU, UNI and SDSU in those 5 games last year. Much tougher schedule than this year IMO.
    I put them together.

    Yeah, KSU, UNI, and SDSU were tough, but we also had a D2 team to pad the stats. Also, I do think ISU is better than most people think (but not nearly as good as 2013 KSU), and we blew them out. Montana is always good, and I'd say they are comparable to SDSU last year. Those games both seemed to have the same feeling to me, with NDSU dominating statistically, but not so much on the scoreboard. Overall though, the first five games last year were definitely tougher than the first 5 this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westnodak93bison View Post
    I wonder what the water cooler talk(didn't have Bisonville) was during the 1990 season after barely beating Morningside. I can't remember. Probably hung over.

    Statistics Summary for 1990


    Date Opponent Score Attend Site Notes
    9/1/1990 INDIANA (PA) W 28-18 11778 Fargo, ND
    * 9/15/1990 at Minn. St. Mankato W 34-20 6000 Mankato, MN
    * 9/22/1990 SOUTH DAKOTA STATE W 40-28 12596 Fargo, ND
    * 9/29/1990 at South Dakota W 42-14 3700 Vermillion, SD
    * 10/6/1990 MORNINGSIDE W 19-12 12448 Fargo, ND
    * 10/13/1990 at Northern Colorado W 34-17 8378 Greeley, CO
    * 10/20/1990 ST. CLOUD STATE W 62-3 10109 Fargo, ND
    * 10/27/1990 at Augustana (SD) W 43-14 2800 Sioux Falls, SD
    * 11/3/1990 at Nebraska Omaha W 44-7 8320 Omaha, NE
    * 11/10/1990 at North Dakota W 42-14 12400 Grand Forks, ND
    p 11/17/1990 NORTHERN COLORADO W 17-7 7103 Fargo, ND
    p 11/24/1990 CAL POLY W 47-0 8253 Fargo, ND
    p 12/3/1990 PITTSBURG STATE W 39-29 9086 Fargo, ND
    p 12/10/1990 vs Indiana (PA) W 51-11 10080 Florence, AL

    Overall: 14-0
    Conference: 9-0
    Home: 7-0
    Away: 6-0
    Neutral: 1-0
    umm, 9086 was the attendance for Pittsburg KS semi-final game and I had stand for that game because we got in late from AC/DC in MSP night before and was a sell out.. But other home games during the year had 10 to 12K at them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelbison View Post
    Could not agree more!! I agree Smith provided a lot. But for some reason we haven't taken the shots down field this year. I know coach K says he wants to take more shots down field as well. Hopefully we will see a few this Saturday!!
    I don't think he trusts anyone much other than Vraa down field. During his presser after the game has kind of said they don't have any home run guys like last year other than Crockett. I don't exactly buy it, there are 13 WRs on the roster not named Vraa and not one of them can burn down the field and catch a football? Someone needs to step up. Gray is supposed to be a speedy guy. Maybe we start seeing him get worked into the offense more. Woods is supposed to be one of these guys who knows how to use his body to get into position for a catch as he isn't a fast guy. He needs to quit thinking and just start catching footballs. RJ seems to be a guy who finds seams, like Smith. He will be breaking records by the time he is done. You can't cover them all. Somebody has got to have someone on them that shouldn't be. The last game saw a CB covering Crockett when he goes outside, so who has the mismatch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUstudent View Post
    Would like to see 2012 vs 2014.
    That would be a better comparison.

    I would think 2011 vs 2014 would be even better since I feel like this years offense is about the same experience wise as the 2011.

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    I think that's because the atcual paid attendance is used in playoff games because the NCAA gets a percentage of each ticket sold so it wouldn't make sense to pad the numbers. It's been a while, but I don't remember anyone counting the number of students that sat in the stands at Dacotah Field for regular season games. We just showed our ID and walked through the gate.

    Quote Originally Posted by scbison91 View Post
    umm, 9086 was the attendance for Pittsburg KS semi-final game and I had stand for that game because we got in late from AC/DC in MSP night before and was a sell out.. But other home games during the year had 10 to 12K at them...
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    To compare scores from the beginning of 2011:

    Lafayette - W 42-6
    Saint Francis, Pa. - W 56-3
    Minnesota - W 37-24
    Illinois State - W 20-10
    Southern Illinois - W 9-3
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    Because I am supremely bored and someone asked, I decided to add on to bb11's awesome post by including 1st 5 data from 2011 (Lafayette, St Francis, Minnesota, ISUr, SIU) and 2012 (Robert Morris, Colorado St, Prairie View A&M, UNI, YSU)

    2011 vs 2012 vs 2013 vs 2014 stats (through 5 games):

    2011 Rushing - 160 attempts for 735 yards (4.6 yds/rush); 12 TDs; 3 fumbles - 2 lost
    2012 Rushing - 215 attempts for 1083 yards (5.04 yds/rush); 14 TDs; 7 fumbles - 3 lost
    2013 Rushing - 232 attempts for 1204 yards (5.19 yds/rush); 12 TDs; 5 fumbles - 2 lost
    2014 Rushing - 227 attempts for 1156 yards (5.09 yds/rush); 11 TDs; 4 fumbles - 2 lost

    2011 Passing - 75 for 110 for 951 yards (Completion percentage - 68.18%); 6 TDs, 1 INT
    2012 Passing - 95 for 137 for 1166 yards (Completion percentage - 69.34%); 13 TDs, 0 INT
    2013 Passing - 87 of 133 for 880 yards (Completion percentage - 65.41%); 10 TDs, 3 INTs
    2014 Passing - 83 of 124 for 1081 yards (Completion percentage - 66.94%); 5 TDs, 3 INTs

    2011 Scoring Offense - 32.8 ppg
    2012 Scoring Offense - 44.2 ppg
    2013 Scoring Offense - 35.0 ppg
    2014 Scoring Offense - 31.0 ppg

    2011 Scoring Defense - 9.2 ppg
    2012 Scoring Defense - 8.4 ppg
    2013 Scoring Defense - 10.8 ppg
    2014 Scoring Defense - 8.2 ppg

    2011 3rd Down Offense - 23 of 56 (41.1%)
    2012 3rd Down Offense - 42 of 71 (59.2%)
    2013 3rd Down Offense - 44 of 78 (56.4%)
    2014 3rd Down Offense - 37 of 69 (53.6%)

    2011 3rd Down Defense - 29 of 76 (38.2%)
    2012 3rd Down Defense - 17 of 57 (29.8%)
    2013 3rd Down Defense - 17 of 69 (24.6%)
    2014 3rd Down Defense - 22 of 73 (30.1%)

    2011 Sacks Allowed - 8 for 50 yards
    2012 Sacks Allowed - 3 for 20 yards
    2013 Sacks Allowed - 9 for 38 yards
    2014 Sacks Allowed - 3 for 22 yards

    2011 Red Zone Offense (TDs) - 12 on 15 Attempts (80.0%)
    2012 Red Zone Offense (TDs) - 20 on 31 Attempts (64.5%)
    2013 Red Zone Offense (TDs) - 18 on 24 Attempts (75.0%)
    2014 Red Zone Offense (TDs) - 11 on 20 Attempts (55.0%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bisonboone11 View Post
    Did you really have that feeling through the first 5 games last year? In the first 5 games of 2013, NDSU was down 14 to KSU in the 3rd quarter, only had a 7 point lead against SDSU at the beginning of the 4th quarter, and was down 13 to UNI to start the 4th quarter. The other two games were Ferris State and Delaware State.
    Completely agree, i think may of us remember the playoff bitz in which we were 100% unbeatable hands down. It's easy to forget the sometimes shaky starts we had early in the run...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUBowler View Post
    Because I am supremely bored and someone asked, I decided to add on to bb11's awesome post by including 1st 5 data from 2011 (Lafayette, St Francis, Minnesota, ISUr, SIU) and 2012 (Robert Morris, Colorado St, Prairie View A&M, UNI, YSU)
    The only ones that really stand out to me over that whole period are the red zone offense and 3rd down offense. Otherwise, we're more or less in line.

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