Week 6 Poll Results

[Tatanka]

Another reason would be that the AGS poll committee cares enough to vet the ballots and give voters a chance to fix mistakes they find. I'm sure the Coach's/SID's and TSN polls don't do that (although apparently TSN sent an email to their voters last week asking them to make sure they double check their ballots before submitting so they must've started noticing some of the wacky ORV teams).

Ever since the days of "coaches" and media not being able to figure out which Dakota school should get their votes, I've pretty much just tried to disregard the polls. They could do a lot for credibility by making votes public information, and giving people the opportunity to correct obvious mistakes, rather than enabling idiots with agendas to hide.

[bisonaudit]

They both played Tennessee Tech, not State. Also the AGS poll is the most accurate in the sense that its final regular season poll is best at predicting the at large playoff field.

My bad. Thanks for the clarification.

I guess that rests on the assumption that the committee is actually good at selecting the best teams for the playoff.

[natstar1]

GPI rankings

http://www.collegesportingnews.com/a...0141007gpi.htm

[Hammersmith]

GPI rankings

http://www.collegesportingnews.com/a...0141007gpi.htm

Here is the adjusted GPI top-25 with 33% less pettiness.*

 1	na	N Dakota St	MVFC	 1.13	  6	 1	 2	 1	 1	 1	 1	 2	 1	 1	 1
 2	na	Villanova	CAA	 4.00	 19	 8	 3	 3	 4	 6	 2	 3	 5	 6	 2
 3	na	E Washington	BSC	 5.63	 38	 9	 8	12	 6	 4	 6	 9	 2	 2	 3
 4	na	McNeese St	SLC	 5.88	 33	15 	 4	 7	12	 3	 4	 6	 4	 5	 5
 5	na	Illinois St	MVFC	 6.38	 11	 3	 1	 4	 2	 2	 3	 1	15	15	10
 6	na	S Illinois	MVFC	 7.25	 25	 4	 6	 5	 3	 5	 8	 5	13	12	 8
 7	na	Coastal Car	BSo	 8.00	 52	 5	 7	15	11	10	 9	15	 3	 3	 6
 8	na	Jacksonville St	OVC	 8.88	 48	10	13	 2	10	18	 7	 8	 8	 8	 7
 9	na	New Hampshire	CAA	 9.25	 60	14	10	11	14	16	11	 7	 6	 4	 4
10	na	Youngstown St	MVFC	10.75	 48	 6	14	 8	 5	 7	15	13	10	16	12
11	na	Indiana St	MVFC	11.75	 37	 2	 5	 6	 8	 8	16	10	22	20	15
12	na	SE Louisiana	SLC	14.88	 87	18	17	24	18	20	14	12	 9	 9	14
13	na	Northern Iowa	MVFC	15.13	 59	12	12	17	13	25	 5	 4	21	21	20
14T	na	S Dakota St	MVFC	15.38	 68	13	23	16	 7	12	10	17	19	19	17
14T	na	Montana		BSC	15.38	100	16	26	28	16	15	23	19	 7	 7	 9
16	na	E Kentucky	OVC	15.63	 79	11	15	18	17	11	18	28	16	17	13
17	na	Missouri St	MVFC	16.25	 55	 7	11	14	 9	 9	12	14	26	26	23
18	na	Chattanooga	SC	17.38	 93	21	16	22	21	32	13	11	12	13	21
19	na	William & Mary	CAA	17.88	111	17	20	29	15	31	22	23	11	10	11
20	na	Fordham		PL	18.88	101	23	21	 9	20	38	21	16	18	14	18
21	na	Montana St	BSC	20.25	118	19	24	31	24	17	24	27	14	11	19
22	na	Yale		Ivy	22.38	101	20	 9	13	32	13	25	30	26	26	26
23	na	Richmond	CAA	23.25	128	25	27	21	28	27	20	29	20	22	16
24	na	Northwestern St	SLC	23.63	111	22	30	19	19	19	26	25	26	26	26
25	na	Harvard		Ivy	24.88	121	30	22	10	26	41	19	24	26	26	26

*A guy by the name of Ralph Wallace owns CSN and used to own AGS. After he sold AGS to other owners, he had a spat with them and no longer includes the AGS poll in the GPI. I added it back in and corrected the formula. At least I tried to. It was a quick and dirty attempt, so I might have screwed something up.

[Tatanka]

Here is the adjusted GPI top-25 with 33% less pettiness.*

 1naN Dakota StMVFC 1.13  6 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1
 2naVillanovaCAA 4.00 19 8 3 3 4 6 2 3 5 6 2
 3naE WashingtonBSC 5.63 38 9 812 6 4 6 9 2 2 3
 4naMcNeese StSLC 5.88 3315  4 712 3 4 6 4 5 5
 5naIllinois StMVFC 6.38 11 3 1 4 2 2 3 1151510
 6naS IllinoisMVFC 7.25 25 4 6 5 3 5 8 51312 8
 7naCoastal CarBSo 8.00 52 5 7151110 915 3 3 6
 8naJacksonville StOVC 8.88 481013 21018 7 8 8 8 7
 9naNew HampshireCAA 9.25 60141011141611 7 6 4 4
10naYoungstown StMVFC10.75 48 614 8 5 71513101612
11naIndiana StMVFC11.75 37 2 5 6 8 81610222015
12naSE LouisianaSLC14.88 8718172418201412 9 914
13naNorthern IowaMVFC15.13 591212171325 5 4212120
14TnaS Dakota StMVFC15.38 68132316 7121017191917
14TnaMontanaBSC15.3810016262816152319 7 7 9
16naE KentuckyOVC15.63 7911151817111828161713
17naMissouri StMVFC16.25 55 71114 9 91214262623
18naChattanoogaSC17.38 9321162221321311121321
19naWilliam & MaryCAA17.8811117202915312223111011
20naFordhamPL18.881012321 920382116181418
21naMontana StBSC20.2511819243124172427141119
22naYaleIvy22.3810120 91332132530262626
23naRichmondCAA23.2512825272128272029202216
24naNorthwestern StSLC23.6311122301919192625262626
25naHarvardIvy24.8812130221026411924262626

*A guy by the name of Ralph Wallace owns CSN and used to own AGS. After he sold AGS to other owners, he had a spat with them and no longer includes the AGS poll in the GPI. I added it back in and corrected the formula. At least I tried to. It was a quick and dirty attempt, so I might have screwed something up.

8 in the top 20. Sounds right.

[thebootfitter]

Here is the adjusted GPI top-25 with 33% less pettiness.*

*A guy by the name of Ralph Wallace owns CSN and used to own AGS. After he sold AGS to other owners, he had a spat with them and no longer includes the AGS poll in the GPI. I added it back in and corrected the formula. At least I tried to. It was a quick and dirty attempt, so I might have screwed something up.

Thanks for that explanation. I knew there was some bad blood and shenanigans between Ralph and AGS, but I didn't realize that he used to own it. I thought it was always Ursus' baby.

Ralph goes out of his way to discredit AGS now. He claims that he is being objective, but to an outsider with no stake in the game, it seems pretty clear that he's not objective.

[JDZ]

Somebody 'splain the Laz Index and the Born Rankings to me. Anybody know what they're based on? Just trying to Justify NDSU not being at No 1. Apparently they think highly of ISUr right now.

[NDSUstudent]

Somebody 'splain the Laz Index and the Born Rankings to me. Anybody know what they're based on? Just trying to Justify NDSU not being at No 1. Apparently they think highly of ISUr right now.

They must be rankings that don't care about SOS.

[stevdock]

Somebody 'splain the Laz Index and the Born Rankings to me. Anybody know what they're based on? Just trying to Justify NDSU not being at No 1. Apparently they think highly of ISUr right now.

Laz Index is based on SOS which we are significantly ahead of ISUr. But they also have a power index, which they are quite a ways ahead of us, and I'm assuming has a lot to do with point differential. They have won their games by an average of 49-8.

[RadioBison]

Somebody 'splain the Laz Index and the Born Rankings to me. Anybody know what they're based on? Just trying to Justify NDSU not being at No 1. Apparently they think highly of ISUr right now.

I can't say how either of these systems work, but I am a nerd with a homemade system that also has ISUr on top. Mine is based only on score differentials and who was the home team, using data from only this season. For me, things like strength of schedule and home field advantage are outputs, not inputs. Basically, each team's rating gets adjusted until the whole system is a good match over all of the games. My system doesn't work very well though. Last year, it had Eastern Ill. as #1 most of the way through, even in the play-offs. On the other hand, it also had Florida St. as #1 most of the year.