A new and better FBS thread

[El_Chapo]

holy crap THERE ISN'T A SOLID FCS PROGRAM OUTSIDE of SDSU, Montana schools MAYBE. just maybe.

the rest are straight garbage and we all know it.

ANYTHING FBS is better than the $hit we have now, last weeks game was a yawner... So we get SDSU every other year at home, OH BOY!!!


there is a CFP spot for a G5 TEAM in 2024 NDSU better f<cking be in a FBS conference else just shut down the program or Fire the Pres/AD


I mean look at this below, we all should be embarassed for still being here. Stonehill U ? Stetson?


1 North Dakota State (24) 4-1 670 1
2 Montana (3) 5-0 648 2
3 South Dakota State 4-1 621 3
4 Sacramento State 4-0 571 5
5 Montana State 4-1 559 4
6 Delaware 5-0 548 6
7 Weber State 4-0 509 7
8 Jackson State 4-0 480 8
9 Chattanooga 4-1 442 10
10 Holy Cross 5-0 431 11
11 UIW 4-1 386 12
12 Mercer 4-1 357 13
13 Villanova 3-2 390 15
14 UT Martin 3-2 286 17
15 Samford 4-1 275 19
16 Fordham 4-1 216 20
17 William & Mary 4-1 205 21
18 Elon 4-1 196 23
19 Missouri State 2-3 190 9
20 Southeastern Louisiana 3-2 162 24
21 Eastern Washington 1-3 108 18
22 Stephen F. Austin 2-3 103 14
23 Rhode Island 3-2 89 25
24 Southern Illinois 3-2 83 NR
25 Southeast Missouri State 4-1 81 NR

Dropped Out: Austin Peay (16), Richmond (22)

Others Receiving Votes: Austin Peay, 72; Richmond, 48; Princeton, 24; Abilene Christian, 21; Eastern Kentucky, 20; North Carolina Central, 19; Idaho, 12; Monmouth (N.J.), 12; Furman, 11; North Dakota, 8; Davidson, 6; Youngstown State, 5; Florida A&M, 4; Tarleton, 4; Penn, 1; Stetson, 1; Stonehill, 1.

[daddy daycare]

holy crap THERE ISN'T A SOLID FCS PROGRAM OUTSIDE of SDSU, Montana schools MAYBE. just maybe.

the rest are straight garbage and we all know it.

ANYTHING FBS is better than the $hit we have now, last weeks game was a yawner... So we get SDSU every other year at home, OH BOY!!!


there is a CFP spot for a G5 TEAM in 2024 NDSU better f<cking be in a FBS conference else just shut down the program or Fire the Pres/AD


I mean look at this below, we all should be embarassed for still being here. Stonehill U ? Stetson?


1 North Dakota State (24) 4-1 670 1
2 Montana (3) 5-0 648 2
3 South Dakota State 4-1 621 3
4 Sacramento State 4-0 571 5
5 Montana State 4-1 559 4
6 Delaware 5-0 548 6
7 Weber State 4-0 509 7
8 Jackson State 4-0 480 8
9 Chattanooga 4-1 442 10
10 Holy Cross 5-0 431 11
11 UIW 4-1 386 12
12 Mercer 4-1 357 13
13 Villanova 3-2 390 15
14 UT Martin 3-2 286 17
15 Samford 4-1 275 19
16 Fordham 4-1 216 20
17 William & Mary 4-1 205 21
18 Elon 4-1 196 23
19 Missouri State 2-3 190 9
20 Southeastern Louisiana 3-2 162 24
21 Eastern Washington 1-3 108 18
22 Stephen F. Austin 2-3 103 14
23 Rhode Island 3-2 89 25
24 Southern Illinois 3-2 83 NR
25 Southeast Missouri State 4-1 81 NR

Dropped Out: Austin Peay (16), Richmond (22)

Others Receiving Votes: Austin Peay, 72; Richmond, 48; Princeton, 24; Abilene Christian, 21; Eastern Kentucky, 20; North Carolina Central, 19; Idaho, 12; Monmouth (N.J.), 12; Furman, 11; North Dakota, 8; Davidson, 6; Youngstown State, 5; Florida A&M, 4; Tarleton, 4; Penn, 1; Stetson, 1; Stonehill, 1.

Yup....see ya there on the 15th. Going to be a wild one.

[daddy daycare]

Where Georgia Southern on that sagarin? Ya there's dog shit football at every level, including FBS.

[NDSU92]

Reality is a bitch because you can't just make up a F'ing schedule. Those schedules are made up and based on conference affiliation and FBS scheduling, which, obviously NDSU doesn't have.

I'm not saying the FCS schedule is going to outdraw the FBS one. All I'm saying is...depending on which conference NDSU ends up in....for a big portion of the NDSU fan base it doesn't matter. Read the game thread from YSU and talking about the white hairs sitting on their asses not cheering. Ya think that's gonna change when Toledo comes rolling in? Cmon. Those fans aren't going anywhere.

And BTW...EL CHAPO was the one that brought up JMU, along with Toledo and Tulane...neither of which will get me to Fargo for a game anymore than whatever "teacher school" is on the docket. If schools like that get your dander up so be it.

Not a made up schedule. Examples of real schedules from real teams this year. Used to counter your point that any schedule without SDSU on it kills our program. You’ve been making that point for months. It doesn’t.

[B.Schlossman Fan Club]

Yeah NDSU isn't Notre Dame or BYU but it also isn't UConn or UMass either.

Going Indy and doing it right would require a ridiculous amount of money that we don't have. It would also require an alumni base similar to BYU that lives and dies with the program and doesn't really care about conference affiliation. IMO very hard to do outside of the private schools.

That being said, I don't know if staying FCS is any better. Either we continue winning and the fan base continues to wane, or we start losing and the fan base...grows? Idk

You are insane if you think going FBS independent is better for the future of the program than staying FCS. I would argue we are more likely to get an invite from FCS than from being FBS independent, especially if we struggle to schedule 4 home games a year…..

[BigLakeBison]

My opinion is that overall the NDSU fan base is pretty knowledgeable about college football and the Bison place in it. They understand that we are and have consistently been a top 50ish program in the nation. The reality is FCS doesn’t give us a chance to prove that and never will. In my conversations with others, the biggest excitement centers around the possibility to prove that. Is there a risk that we won’t be able to and the fan engagement drops because of it? Yes. Currently there is no way for us to prove our status in the college football world and that it demoralizing to fan enthusiasm. Simple as that. I get wanting to aim for the best conference affiliation/situation possible. I just tend to believe that every passing season only makes it more urgent and likely requires NDSU to take more risks to get there.

[B.Schlossman Fan Club]

As opposed to Indiana State and Western Illinois? And I hate to break it to you, but those JMU playoff games ain't coming back...

Let's play a game, pick your least favorite schedule:

vs Drake
vs NC A&T
at Arizona
vs Youngstown State
at Indiana State
vs South Dakota State
vs Illinois State
at Western Illinois
at Southern Illinois
vs North Dakota

at Oregon State
at New Mexico
vs Tennessee Martin
at UTEP
vs San Diego State
vs Fresno State
at Air Force
vs Colorado State
vs Brigham Young
at Nevada
at Wyoming
vs Utah State

vs Long Island University
vs Massachusetts
at Ohio State
at San Diego State
vs Central Michigan
at Northern Illinois
vs Kent State
at Buffalo
at Eastern Michigan
vs Ball State
vs Bowling Green
at Western Michigan

at Arkansas
vs Kennesaw State
vs Miami-Ohio
vs Indiana
at Tulsa
vs USF
at SMU
vs Navy
vs ECU
at Temple
vs Tulane

No one is arguing what would be a better schedule, question is if we get into a conference or could even get that schedule as an independent.

We CAN afford it

We would have better opponents

We just need an invite

It’s all about the invite and that is not going to be easy to get

[NDSU92]

No one is arguing what would be a better schedule, question is if we get into a conference or could even get that schedule as an independent.

We CAN afford it

We would have better opponents

We just need an invite

It’s all about the invite and that is not going to be easy to get

The problem is that people have been arguing about what would be a better schedule and whether we can afford it. That’s why there’s been 850 pages of posts.

[BigHorns]

As opposed to Indiana State and Western Illinois? And I hate to break it to you, but those JMU playoff games ain't coming back...

Let's play a game, pick your least favorite schedule:

The MAC schedule is mostly a wash (Indiana St vs Kent St, etc) outside OSU, who might or might not agree to play us at their house. The P5 tend to schedule easy G5 home games, it's their "FCS tuneup" game before conference play. MAC would be fine though.

MWC and AAC are both clearly superior. AAC would take a miracle to happen for a number of reasons.

Also, agree Chapo's notion of playing JMU again is ludicrous, it won't happen in FBS either.

[B.Schlossman Fan Club]

The problem is that people have been arguing about what would be a better schedule and whether we can afford it. That’s why there’s been 850 pages of posts.

I don’t think there are many people left that think that. We can afford it and would be more interesting (except maybe CUSA). It’s not even worth arguing it anymore.