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    Possible (rumored) PAC12 numbers

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    One thing I just learned per source about Pac 12 media rights offer:

    There was NEVER an offer that included ANY linear TV options.

    $23m annually from Apple with an opt out after two years was the ONLY option presented to the executive committee.

    Pac 12 was paying out $27m this year. Would have been a $4m loss plus the loss of linear TV.

    Non starter that would never be accepted
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    Possible (rumored) Washington Big10 numbers

    Dave “Softy” Mahler
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    Per source, UW will be accepting a reduced share for the next 6 years form the Big Ten that will average roughly 32.5 million a year.

    The real windfall will come when the new Big Ten media deal is agreed to. Could be for more than 2.5-3x what UW will make in first 6 years.

    UW also will have access to non media rights revenue streams(CFP revenue, NCAA tournament revenue) that could add $10+ million per year.
    6:02 PM · Aug 5, 2023

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruinbison View Post
    Possible (rumored) Washington Big10 numbers
    3x comment would imply a $1.8 billion annual media deal for the conference. The current deal is like $1.1 billion through 2030.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taper View Post
    Wait, where is this $105M x 4 coming from?
    FBS conference needs 8 full members, not 6 like FCS.
    The MWC exit fees are in the bylaws, not a media deal GOR. The only way to avoid exit fees is getting enough votes to dissolve the conference, which probably won't happen.
    Conferences are hard to kill but the PAC seems to have found a way.
    The whole conference gets the last payment for the Pac 12 Networks. Instead of splitting it 12 ways, it's split 4 ways

    Same is true of the payments from the NCAA Tournament credits and the bump in College Football Playoff money for being in an autonomous conference
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    There is still some money out there for these 4 schools. Way more than the MW TV deal that pays 4 million a year and could shrink more if split amongst 4 more teams

    I dont believe the PAC 12 wants the whole MWC for all sports. They would be better off poaching 4 teams nationwide. Whether it's a Memphis, UTEP or pretty much anyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    The whole conference gets the last payment for the Pac 12 Networks. Instead of splitting it 12 ways, it's split 4 ways

    Same is true of the payments from the NCAA Tournament credits and the bump in College Football Playoff money for being in an autonomous conference
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    There is still some money out there for these 4 schools. Way more than the MW TV deal that pays 4 million a year and could shrink more if split amongst 4 more teams

    I dont believe the PAC 12 wants the whole MWC for all sports
    The PAC media ends July 1, 2024. All 12 members are playing the 2023/4 season and receiving their share. BB credits are nice but anyone joining is leaving behind credits too so that's a wash. I strongly suspect the CFP revamps who gets paid what since the PAC is now a power conference in name only. Don't forget they owe Comcast somewhere between $50-70M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taper View Post
    The PAC media ends July 1, 2024. All 12 members are playing the 2023/4 season and receiving their share. BB credits are nice but anyone joining is leaving behind credits too so that's a wash. I strongly suspect the CFP revamps who gets paid what since the PAC is now a power conference in name only. Don't forget they owe Comcast somewhere between $50-70M.
    https://www.latimes.com/sports/story...ditional-money

    18 million per year now split between 4 schools. Thats more than the MW gets for their whole TV deal.

    Thats just for basketball
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    Quote Originally Posted by taper View Post
    Conferences are hard to kill but the PAC seems to have found a way.
    The lack of an exit fee was the undoing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    https://www.latimes.com/sports/story...ditional-money

    18 million per year now split between 4 schools. Thats more than the MW gets for their whole TV deal.

    Thats just for basketball
    Except they won't be split 4 ways. If they don't return to at least 8 they're no longer a conference and the credits go to the schools that earned them. If they want to get 8 there's no way anybody is going to pay $20-34M in exit fees and not get a share. The MWC and AAC have a nice pile of credits too they'd be leaving behind.
    PAC finances are a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    https://www.latimes.com/sports/story...ditional-money

    18 million per year now split between 4 schools.
    So $4.5M per school.
    I wonder if that covers the interest on Cal's FB renovations annual mortgage payment ($18M).

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    Quote Originally Posted by taper View Post
    PAC finances are a mess.
    ... and are making the PAC the first zombie conference.

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