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[BigHorns]

Geography is not the hurdle..

Its a plane flight like we do & they do for all away games

Its seen as a hurdle because more distance often increases travel costs for all sports.
Less significant for P5, and perhaps MWC can make it work. Having a better media deal helps.
Most G5 schools do try to reduce travel if they can. Charter flights are billed based on Hobbs engine time.

NCAA regionalizes a lot of their playoffs (not just FCS) for the same reasons.

[The_Sicatoka]

Rule 2: 11 + 1 = 13

To understand that in a conference mindset ...
https://frankthetank.org/2009/12/27/...ade-of-orange/

[tony]

Rule 2: 11 + 1 = 13

To understand that in a conference mindset ...
https://frankthetank.org/2009/12/27/...ade-of-orange/

Fun fact: I live in Rutgers country (Penn State and R have about the same visibility) and have yet to see a Rutgers game of any kind on TV. I wonder what kind of ratings they get?

[MWC]

Fun fact: I live in Rutgers country (Penn State and R have about the same visibility) and have yet to see a Rutgers game of any kind on TV. I wonder what kind of ratings they get?

It doesn't matter..Rutgers still gets a split of that sweet BiG tv deal.

[daddy daycare]

Geography is not the hurdle..

Its a plane flight like we do & they do for all away games

Bulllllshit.

[BigHorns]

It doesn't matter..Rutgers still gets a split of that sweet BiG tv deal.

Believe they were supposedly invited because having them in the conference massively increased cable/media distribution for the B1G. Not convinced they have much of a fanbase compared to the typical B1G team, but apparently their location/media market immediately benefitted the conference on payouts.

A lot of this happens in FBS, the conferences are looking at what a new market/location will do for their media deals, recruiting, and potential student enrollments. Part of the reason California and Texas markets seem so desirable. Where it gets ludicrous is when the conferences go after the #5 or #6 school in a given market, just so they can claim that market.

[IndyBison]

Believe they were supposedly invited because having them in the conference massively increased cable/media distribution for the B1G. Not convinced they have much of a fanbase compared to the typical B1G team, but apparently their location/media market immediately benefitted the conference on payouts.

A lot of this happens in FBS, the conferences are looking at what a new market/location will do for their media deals, recruiting, and potential student enrollments. Part of the reason California and Texas markets seem so desirable. Where it gets ludicrous is when the conferences go after the #5 or #6 school in a given market, just so they can claim that market.

Rutgers and Maryland weren't desirable because fans of those schools brought a lot of eyeballs. It was because it made it an easier sell to cable providers in NYC, Baltimore, and DC to pay for the BiG network. Existing B1G schools have good alumni bases in those cities, but maybe not big enough for the providers to carry the network. Now they do and that's big money for the B1G.

In G5 or FCS, they aren't getting into a larger market for eyeballs with the #5 or #6 team. It's for recruiting and alumni development. UMKC doesn't get a lot of attention in KC, but schools in the Summit have better luck recruiting in the area because mom and dad know they'll be able to see their kids play close to home at least once a year. A friend of mine has a son that was recruited heavily by NDSU and JMU as a B1G transfer. But he chose EKU partially because his dad could much more easily travel to his games every weekend. Richmond is only 3 hours from Indy, and most of the OVC schools are within 4-5 hours. Another key reason though was the head coach at EKU had recruited him when he was an assistant at Tennessee. His daughter is on the Rutgers track team, so she went a little further away, but she was one of the top javelin recruits in the country and they are apparently one of the top teams in the country.

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[BigHorns]

Rutgers and Maryland weren't desirable because fans of those schools brought a lot of eyeballs. It was because it made it an easier sell to cable providers in NYC, Baltimore, and DC to pay for the BiG network. Existing B1G schools have good alumni bases in those cities, but maybe not big enough for the providers to carry the network. Now they do and that's big money for the B1G.

In G5 or FCS, they aren't getting into a larger market for eyeballs with the #5 or #6 team. It's for recruiting and alumni development. UMKC doesn't get a lot of attention in KC, but schools in the Summit have better luck recruiting in the area because mom and dad know they'll be able to see their kids play close to home at least once a year. A friend of mine has a son that was recruited heavily by NDSU and JMU as a B1G transfer. But he chose EKU partially because his dad could much more easily travel to his games every weekend. Richmond is only 3 hours from Indy, and most of the OVC schools are within 4-5 hours. Another key reason though was the head coach at EKU had recruited him when he was an assistant at Tennessee. His daughter is on the Rutgers track team, so she went a little further away, but she was one of the top javelin recruits in the country and they are apparently one of the top teams in the country.

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A lot of the talking heads claimed adding Kennesaw was all about getting into the Atlanta media market.

There are 4 other schools that own that market though: UGA, Georgia Tech, Georgia Southern, Georgia State
Kennesaw is on the outskirts, and has a tiny fanbase. Distant #5 in Atlanta, yet somehow it was all about location/market.

https://twitter.com/ChrisDemirdjian/...582317056?s=20

[IndyBison]

A lot of the talking heads claimed adding Kennesaw was all about getting into the Atlanta media market.

There are 4 other schools that own that market though: UGA, Georgia Tech, Georgia Southern, Georgia State
Kennesaw is on the outskirts, and has a tiny fanbase. Distant #5 in Atlanta, yet somehow it was all about location/market.

https://twitter.com/ChrisDemirdjian/...582317056?s=20

They aren't getting huge media attention being in Atlanta, but they will get more attention than they do without being there. Ball State, Indiana State, Evansville, IUPUI, PFW, Valpo, and Butler (other than basketball) are those similar schools in Indiana that don't get a lot of attention, but they do get mentioned.

The bigger thing, though, is they now have games near Atlanta and can host alumni events there and have a better story for recruits in Atlanta/Georgia. The smaller the footprint the less impactful that will be.

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[Hammerhead]

I don't know how much attention Kennesaw will get in the Atlanta media. When we lived in Portland, PSU would be lucky to get one highlight on the Saturday night sports and they would usually just show the score along with the D-III team in the area. There wasn't much time left after the Oregon and Oregon State coverage plus other Pac-10/12 action.

They aren't getting huge media attention being in Atlanta, but they will get more attention than they do without being there. Ball State, Indiana State, Evansville, IUPUI, PFW, Valpo, and Butler (other than basketball) are those similar schools in Indiana that don't get a lot of attention, but they do get mentioned.

The bigger thing, though, is they now have games near Atlanta and can host alumni events there and have a better story for recruits in Atlanta/Georgia. The smaller the footprint the less impactful that will be.

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