A new and better FBS thread

[NDSU92]

USD and UND can’t afford FBS and don’t have high enough attendance. NDSU and SDSU wont take them with to the FBS just because they are Dakota schools, the Dakota schools are only a package for FCS. Maybe the big Sky will take you two when you are left behind?

You simply don’t understand. It’s the STRATEGY of including UND. Not actually including UND. Or something, idk.

Coincidentally hurting the OP’s point is the fact that adding pud FCS programs to an FBS conference is actually CUSA’s strategy, not the Sun Belt’s…

Are all UND fans like this or does the SS just send their dumb ones?

[The_Sicatoka]

The ratio of institutional funds NDSU spends on athletics compared to academics is among the lowest in the country and is considerably lower than the institution you support. You seem either unable to grasp this concept (among other basic budget management concepts) or are willing playing dumb. There is no point in continuing this conversation lol.

I grasp it.
Even with the higher ratio of institutional funds to athletics, UND academics were not in the red.

It took a $4.8M state bailout to head off even deeper academic cuts at NDSU.

[oldmantutters]

How about this for a conference?

Washington State
Oregon State
Boise State
Montana
Montana State
Wyoming
NDSU
SDSU
Colorado State

And fill in with 1-3 of the following:
UND
USD
Northern Colorado
Idaho
Idaho State
Portland State

If the PAC12 gets raided it could mean a huge shake up in the landscape of things.

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[abc123]

The ratio of institutional funds NDSU spends on athletics compared to academics is among the lowest in the country and is considerably lower than the institution you support.

It is not from a lack of trying. The NDSU athletic department tripped all over themselves trying to convince the student government to increase student fees and got completely shut down.
Instead they had to negotiate to get some seats back from the students. That strategy it worked well for a few years when tickets were tough to come by. Now there is 2 total opponents that anyone needs to put forth any effort to get tickets for. Otherwise they are readily available.

[bisonaudit]

It is not from a lack of trying. The NDSU athletic department tripped all over themselves trying to convince the student government to increase student fees and got completely shut down.
Instead they had to negotiate to get some seats back from the students. That strategy it worked well for a few years when tickets were tough to come by. Now there is 2 total opponents that anyone needs to put forth any effort to get tickets for. Otherwise they are readily available.

I’m not sure that’s how it went down with student government. My impression, very much from the outside, was not that the athletic department did not do a very good job selling their position.

[Bisonator98]

I grasp it.
Even with the higher ratio of institutional funds to athletics, UND academics were not in the red.

It took a $4.8M state bailout to head off even deeper academic cuts at NDSU.

Did all those cuts and bailouts about 6 years ago at UND slip your mind?

[The_Sicatoka]

Did all those cuts and bailouts about 6 years ago at UND slip your mind?

There were cuts. Deep. Painful. Sobering. But today, a positive.
Show me, link to, the one-time state budget line item bailout like NDSU got. (If I've forgotten it I'll own it.)

[The_Sicatoka]

I’m not sure that’s how it went down with student government. My impression, very much from the outside, was not that the athletic department did a very good job selling their position.

NDSU Athletics made a very good pitch.
NDSU's student body shot it to ribbons at the vote.

[bisonaudit]

NDSU Athletics made a very good pitch.
NDSU's student body shot it to ribbons at the vote.

Seems contradictory.

[The_Sicatoka]

Seems contradictory.

The NDSU student body didn't have appetite to direct their dollars to Athletics and it showed at the ballot box.