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    Both the AAC and the MW have football only members. Never say never..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DORMIE View Post
    Read an article recently on the University of Montana and
    the possibility of moving to FBS. The AD said the additional 22
    scholarships and the addition of an additional woman's program
    along with their location, makes it not a possibility in the near
    future.
    If there is a school I could care less about it is Montana, look no further than why their football program is a shell of what it once was. They are content with it as well, I'm happy for them.
    NDSU to the FBS always. In all ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWC View Post
    Probably a dumb question but what the hey. Are schools that move up required to go to 85 scholarships? Couldn't they go with less?
    I would hope not. Thats lame. Montana is FCS forever. Maybe when NDSU and SDSU move up, they can compete and finally win one. Seriously, either Montana schools could raise enough money in a week. NDSU could raise it in less than a week. In the midst of a global pandemic, we raised 53 million for an IPF while funding a new outdoor track, softball indoor hitting facility and grew our athletic scholarship endowment dramatically
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWC View Post
    Probably a dumb question but what the hey. Are schools that move up required to go to 85 scholarships? Couldn't they go with less?
    The minimum requirement is 90% of the 85 over a rolling two year period.
    In other words you have to average at least 76.5

    It would be a risk to go that low though with the portal taking players all the way thru spring camp often.
    Most teams aim for 85 to have competitive depth, but the portal has meant quite a few dipped lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWC View Post
    The AAC has to pay for their own tv production costs so that takes a large bite out of the 7 million.
    Yes, and it's actually worse than that.
    Only the "legacy" teams are receiving $7m. All the new teams are only getting $2m.
    I think they hope to renegotiate down the road, but for now it's a two-tiered payout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigHorns View Post
    Yes, and it's actually worse than that.
    Only the "legacy" teams are receiving $7m. All the new teams are only getting $2m.
    I think they hope to renegotiate down the road, but for now it's a two-tiered payout.
    They dont pay to produce their own games. 1/2 of basketball and football are on ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNU. The Conference Championship is on ABC. ESPN isnt going to allow a WDAY broadcast

    Now possibly the ESPN+ only games or olympic sports like Volleyball might be self produced, but I cant find anything about it

    But if you have to produce your own espn+ games, you sell the media rights to WDAY or KVLY, simulcast and profit. Or produce your own and sell your own advertising. We did that for years and profited

    There is truth to legacy teams earning more
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    Quote Originally Posted by HerdBot View Post
    They dont pay to produce their own games. 1/2 of basketball and football are on ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNU. The Conference Championship is on ABC. ESPN isnt going to allow a WDAY broadcast

    Now possibly the ESPN+ only games or olympic sports like Volleyball might be self produced, but I cant find anything about it

    But if you have to produce your own espn+ games, you sell the media rights to WDAY or KVLY, simulcast and profit. Or produce your own and sell your own advertising. We did that for years and profited

    There is truth to legacy teams earning more
    ESPN standard contract with the G5 conferences requires the schools to staff and produce the ESPN+ broadcasts to ESPN standards, which specifies things like the broadcast equipment, type and placement of cameras, graphics packages, etc.

    For an average AAC school this equates to about 6 football games, 20 mens basketball games, plus the majority of games for other sports. ESPN does provide staffing and produce the games shown on their networks, but it is far less than 50% of the content overall.

    AAC schools do *not* own the distribution rights for ESPN+ broadcasts, and are not permitted to simulcast, show on other outlets, or insert their own advertising. ESPN has exclusive ownership as part of the media rights deals, this is what they are paying for. Occasionally with conferences like the MAC, ESPN will choose to sell/sublease a few of the ESPN+ broadcasts to another network like CBSSN. These games also typically use school production staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigHorns View Post
    ESPN standard contract with the G5 conferences requires the schools to staff and produce the ESPN+ broadcasts to ESPN standards, which specifies things like the broadcast equipment, type and placement of cameras, graphics packages, etc.

    For an average AAC school this equates to about 6 football games, 20 mens basketball games, plus the majority of games for other sports. ESPN does provide staffing and produce the games shown on their networks, but it is far less than 50% of the content overall.

    AAC schools do *not* own the distribution rights for ESPN+ broadcasts, and are not permitted to simulcast, show on other outlets, or insert their own advertising. ESPN has exclusive ownership as part of the media rights deals, this is what they are paying for. Occasionally with conferences like the MAC, ESPN will choose to sell/sublease a few of the ESPN+ broadcasts to another network like CBSSN. These games also typically use school production staff.
    Thats ESPN+, but 50% of mbb and football games are on regular ESPN, ESPN2 or ESPNU. Conference Championship on ABC. Makes sense if you are in the 50% of football games that are on an espn network and bonus if they sublease. Better production and exposure

    Its weird though because the MVFC gives away the product yo ESPN+ and none of those games have any standards. Some are as bad as the Towson game last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDSUstudent View Post
    If there is a school I could care less about it is Montana, look no further than why their football program is a shell of what it once was. They are content with it as well, I'm happy for them.


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    NDSU should be FBS

    FCS IS DEAD. sorry. truth hurts

    our fanbase is done with it. 10,000 fans is all we can muster in playoffs? yea. they have spoken

    FBS or BUST. make it happen NOW

    AAC or MWC
    give them whatever concessions they want to make this happen
    NDSU TO FBS. HAVEN'T WE WON ENOUGH?

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